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#54636 06/07/06 06:08 AM
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Check this out. Does anyone know how this works?


http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/magic-gopher-central.swf


I've done it 20 times in a row and it got it right everytime.




Coldrayne #54637 06/07/06 06:29 AM
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So did I... ;-)

The numbers you can get as a result are limited: 9, 18,27,36, etc. All those numbers have a same kind of symbol in the list. So whichever was your original number, the squirrel (or rat?) knows the symbol!

Of course they change the symbol every time. It makes things more confusing

Oxygen #54638 06/07/06 06:36 AM
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I just figured that out. I thought I was going nuts there for a while.

Coldrayne #54639 06/07/06 03:02 PM
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Cool! Gophers and squirrels love nuts! <grin>

I was bamboozled by this ....but I am not much of a mathemetician. It was fun.

vitaman

vita-man #54640 06/07/06 04:14 PM
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Oh, this was cute!

I did figure it out, though, with the hints above. (But I really need to brush up on my math!)

Cheers!
Unis

Unis #54641 06/07/06 09:55 PM
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This got me for a while too. Then my boyfriend told me to just randomly choose a number each time and sure enough the rodent began to get it wrong. It was then that I realised that there must only be certain numbers between 1 and 100 that you can feasibly end up with at the end of the specified formula and that they were obviously rotating the same symbols each time for all of them. Don't ask me what those figures are, though - I'm not a mathematician!
Thanks for that
Ingrid
(BTW I genuinely thought for a moment that that furry cartoon face just might be telepathic - don't tell anyone though!)

Ingrid #54642 06/16/06 03:03 PM
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Hi gopher-loving Friends,

As Oxygen said, the only numbers you can ever get as answers are 9, 18,
27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72, and 81 ... that is, multiples of 9. And the chart
symbols for all numbers which are multiples of 9 are the same, so that
Mystic Gopher always gets it right.

To understand why this works, read on ... (spoilers ...)

The reason why this works is because of our base-10 number system.

Let "a" represent the first digit in your two digit number, and "b" represent
the second digit. Then, your two digit number would be expressed as:

(10 times a) plus b

For example, if your number is 49, then a = 4, and b = 9, and indeed, 49 =
(4 times 10) plus 9.

Notice, what happens when you go through the operation that Mystic
Gopher asks of you:

1. Choose a two-digit number:

(10 times a) plus b

2. Add the two digits together:

a plus b

3. Subtract the answer from the original two-digit number:

[(10 times a) plus b] minus [a plus b]

And if you remember your algebra, simply distribute, re-arrange, and
solve:

10a + b - (a + b)
= 10a + b - a - b
= 10a - a + b - b
= 9a

So, no matter what number you choose, the final answer will always be NINE
times an integer, that is, a multiple of 9.

Wha la!

HF

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Well Hartreefoch - you know from one of our other discussions that I'm keen to learn Science despite a bad start in school - now you know that I wasn't that hot at Maths either (REALLY lousy at it in fact!). This is great - now an adult refresh class in Maths too!
best wishes
Ingrid
(PS If you want a class in German or French, give me a call!)

Ingrid #54644 06/18/06 04:34 PM
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Guten Tag, Ingrid,

Glad you liked the explanation! Yes, math and science are in a sense
languages, too, languages which seem to describe nature well. And, yes,
I'm trying to brush up on my German and French (and Spanish) via LSC's
EasyLearn Languages. I think they should make a separate forum for the
EasyLearn students, so that we can practice corresponding in these
languages. Maybe you can be the moderator And if they ever come up
with an EasyLearn Maths and Sciences, well, then I can be the moderator
for that one, ha ha!

Auf Wiedersehen!

HF


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