Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ Beyond Human Tapping the power of multiple messages

I have become aware of an untapped resource in myself that I admire in others. Babayada you reminded me of this ability of the human mind when you spoke of giving 2 completely different messages conscious and unconscious in one statement. This was in Oxygen's thread on his dream.

I think it is a very interesting phenomenon. What amazes me, maybe it is slightly different is the NLP training method, that I have read about and desire to emulate, of very proficient NLP trainers. I have read that they actually demonstrate at the same time they teach you about something. They give two messages at once, but they are purposefully doing it. What sounds great about that is the participants experience what they are talking about at the same time.

Has anybody here purposely tried to tap this power and how did you do it? How do the pros do it?

[This message has been edited by Grant (edited January 25, 2006).]

The first step is getting clear on the difference between form and content.

The content is just about any filler you may be talking about. A subject or whatever. The form is what the NLP trainers demonstrate.

For instance, at a Bandler seminar I went up to him and started talking to him about this guy in New Orleans that something he said reminded me of. He started talking about it, too, but all the while he was doing the patterns he was demonstrating earlier.

So, we were having a conversation about BS (content) while he was demonstrating the form or structure I was at the training to learn. The two had nothing to do with each other.

When people at seminars ask questions about the details of a pattern, the instructors will address their question in content, and as they do so they will repeat the form or pattern asked about within that communication.

It's covert in terms of not being consciously pointed to ... and that, I think, is intentional because it is aimed at creating unconscious competence in the learner ... meaning the conscious mind doesn't need to be involved in the process.

Sneaky, but it works.

I find these double (or triple..) messages beautiful, fantastic! I do my best to use them in the forum for my own and others benefit. Like the word like, here me? And mispelling of words. It puts me into a transe... Anything written after a mispelled word goeas unnoticed of the copnscious mind (unless you aware of it! ). And you can also diminish teh effect of unpleasant words by mispelling them (If you can't avoid using them). Brilliaaantt!

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Edit... and later you can have a laugh reading your own message and seeing all the mispelled words and wondering why your OTC mind make the (supposedly) purposeful mistakes

[This message has been edited by Oxygen (edited January 26, 2006).]

What's interesting to me is how well the mind can recognize patterns out of brutally misspelled words. It's amazing.

There was one email my dad sent me that was almost completely misspelled, yet you could tell exactly what the intended message was.

Babayada

Is Structure/Form VAKOG with submodalities?

I'll have to refer you to John Grinder and Carmen Bostic-St. Clair's Whispering in the Wind for that before I plant my foot deeply in my mouth.

The book is very much about the distinction between content and form.

I think they do address submodalities in the book. I think submodalities can be used as a description of form.

You put the content in one form of submodalities and then another and you get two totally different experineces.