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April 28th 2000 I finished the PR course, till this moment, I have not (yet!) achieved the successes I hoped/longued for and read in this forum. I've practised, practised, pauzed, piles of books from the library, had fun(?), the dictionairy test didn't work... I've had some contact with Pete about this and I started reviewing every step. I think I know where the problem could be: stating my goal... Normally, I buy/borrow a book because the title/cover appeals to me. Then I start reading: read and surprise something interesting, I think about it, adjust it the thought etc. and then read on. Although I read (very) slow (200 wpm), comprehension is most of the time above 85%. Using the PR system:
previewing goes OK, PR itself goes OK (see the blip page), activating really sucks!
Preparing 1-2-3: I think this is also OK, tangarine... I guess OK (I even practised with a real one and anchored the feeling (NLP) on my knuckle!), stating your goal? Duh? Can you help me out on this one? How specific does the goal have to be? When I normally read a book I want to know everything! Am I to greedy? :-) "What do I want from this book" is a question I can't anwer so easily... Regards, Erwin
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Usually you do not want "everything from a book (meaning photographic recall - that is usually not all that worthwhile). You say that you initially buy a book because the cover appeals to you. Fine. Ask yourself "why?", "what about the cover interests me?", "what might this book contain that I am interested in?". You now have an initial goal that is not super specific, but has a certain level of specificity that can start to help directing your mind towards your goal of understanding the book. As you prepare you learn more about the book - it's structure, some more details about what it is about, and things might start to jump out at you that you would like to know more about. This is great - you can now redefine your goals in reading the book with a greater level of detail. After you PhotoRead the book and allowed it to incubate, you start super-reading and dipping, perhaps based on some initial questions that you have formulated from your previewing. As you learn more from super-reading and data-dipping, you narrow in more closely on the things that really interest you in the book. Finally, when you mindmap and (maybe) super read, you really zoom in on the specific areas that you want the finer detail of. The process, as far as I understand and apply it, is one of continually refining/redefining your goals as you go from ignorance of the text to mastery. Since you are making a number of passes through the material, fine tuning your goals for that text should become easier and easier. PhotoReading is a purpose-driven activity, and is not (I believe) designed to be completely passive. The actual PhotoReading step might be passive as you absorb the text, but both prior to and after that stage, the PhotoReader is a very active and demanding reader who is constantly shifting mental gears and readjusting to their greater knowledge of the text.
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ckerins has some great ideas there for manual activations. I am curious do you find rapid reading anymore effective after the photofocus stage? After I have photoread I am able to rapid read/skitter my way through a book quite quickly. Have you tried direct learning (that is my favorite approach)?
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Usually you do not want "everything from a book (meaning photographic recall - that is usually not all that worthwhile). You say that you initially buy a book because the cover appeals to you. Fine. Ask yourself "why?", "what about the cover interests me?", "what might this book contain that I am interested in?". You now have an initial goal that is not super specific, but has a certain level of specificity that can start to help directing your mind towards your goal of understanding the book. As you prepare you learn more about the book - it's structure, some more details about what it is about, and things might start to jump out at you that you would like to know more about. This is great - you can now redefine your goals in reading the book with a greater level of detail. After you PhotoRead the book and allowed it to incubate, you start super-reading and dipping, perhaps based on some initial questions that you have formulated from your previewing. As you learn more from super-reading and data-dipping, you narrow in more closely on the things that really interest you in the book. Finally, when you mindmap and (maybe) super read, you really zoom in on the specific areas that you want the finer detail of.The process, as far as I understand and apply it, is one of continually refining/redefining your goals as you go from ignorance of the text to mastery. Since you are making a number of passes through the material, fine tuning your goals for that text should become easier and easier. PhotoReading is a purpose-driven activity, and is not (I believe) designed to be completely passive. The actual PhotoReading step might be passive as you absorb the text, but both prior to and after that stage, the PhotoReader is a very active and demanding reader who is constantly shifting mental gears and readjusting to their greater knowledge of the text.
Very well put ckerins, that's the best explanation I've hear on stating one's purpose to date. I also have been having problems in this area and now it is CLEAR!!!
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-39- When you say direct learning, what exactly do you mean? What are your techniques for direct learning? Today i PhR a book, Wilhem's 8 lectures on the I Ching. I used Quietude for the PhR. Then i just let my other than conscious mind process what i'd PhR. Next i wrote some questions that i'd like to answer. The next thing i did was pick out some trigger words. I was amazed that my questions tallied w/ the major topics in the book. Note: i did the PhR first & then the prepare step. That's how i do it now. PhR--prepare--PhR---incubate---activate. I'm curious as to how you do direct learning & what is your success w/ it? Thanks!
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ckerins has some great ideas there for manual activations.I am curious do you find rapid reading anymore effective after the photofocus stage? After I have photoread I am able to rapid read/skitter my way through a book quite quickly. Have you tried direct learning (that is my favorite approach)?
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When you say direct learning, what exactly do you mean?What are your techniques for direct learning? Today i PhR a book, Wilhem's 8 lectures on the I Ching. I used Quietude for the PhR. Then i just let my other than conscious mind process what i'd PhR. Next i wrote some questions that i'd like to answer. The next thing i did was pick out some trigger words. I was amazed that my questions tallied w/ the major topics in the book. Note: i did the PhR first & then the prepare step. That's how i do it now. PhR--prepare--PhR---incubate---activate. I'm curious as to how you do direct learning & what is your success w/ it? Thanks!
Hello Margaret:
You're telling me that you photoread first, then prepare, then photoread the book again, then you allow the information to incubate for 24 hrs, then you activate??? What happened to the previewing of the book????? and do get into the accelerated learning state prior to photoreading?????
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When you say direct learning, what exactly do you mean?What are your techniques for direct learning? Today i PhR a book, Wilhem's 8 lectures on the I Ching. I used Quietude for the PhR. Then i just let my other than conscious mind process what i'd PhR. Next i wrote some questions that i'd like to answer. The next thing i did was pick out some trigger words. I was amazed that my questions tallied w/ the major topics in the book. Note: i did the PhR first & then the prepare step. That's how i do it now. PhR--prepare--PhR---incubate---activate. I'm curious as to how you do direct learning & what is your success w/ it? Thanks!
Oh! by the way Margaret, what is Quietude???
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That was very informative ckerins. I have found that PR helps one focus on what is relevant for you. Rather than sequentially going through an entire book page by page, line by line or reading randomly with no goal PR causes relevant information to jump out at you
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ckerins has some great ideas there for manual activations.I am curious do you find rapid reading anymore effective after the photofocus stage? After I have photoread I am able to rapid read/skitter my way through a book quite quickly. Have you tried direct learning (that is my favorite approach)?
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Depending on what my goals are with the book, and depending on how much conscious understanding of the meterial that I desire, I will rapid read. I have noticed that if I go right to the rapid reading step (and skip the super reading/data dipping and mind mapping steps) I process the book much faster than if I had skipped the PhotoReading step. Translation: the PhotoReading step definitely does something for "priming the mental pump" on the written material. I have used direct learning - mostly in relation to absorbing interpersonal skills via NLP. One of the tricks with Direct Learning, I think, is that after you've PhotoRead and then "made believe" that you have the desired skill, you let yourself unconsciously act with the skill. What I mean is, after the initial programming that you've given yourself for the ability that you desire, you stop watching yourself (i.e., waiting) for it to manifest and you let it happen. I think that this frees the mind to integrate and use the new skills, and gets you out of the mindset where you don't possess the skills and into the mindset where you do possess the skills. Maybe another way to put this is: I think in order for Direct Learning to be highly effective, you need to allow yourself to mentally "jump tracks" and forget about the fact that you're using Direct Learning to acquire the skills and just go forward and start using them. It's similar to what I've seen some of my karate students go through when learning a new technique. They become too self conscious of performing the technique properly that they slow down how quickly they learn the skills and actually get in their own way while learning the skills. Maybe the best approach is simply to see the skill that you want (i.e. - the end goal), observe somebody doing it (or the book that illustrates how to do it), and then simply go and do it, without trying to correct yourself at every single step. Your first movements towards your goal might be grossly inaccurate, but eventually the unconscious self correcting mechanism in the mind will start learning and making the adjustments necessary without your conscious intervention. Then again, I could be wrong. quote:
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ckerins has some great ideas there for manual activations.I am curious do you find rapid reading anymore effective after the photofocus stage? After I have photoread I am able to rapid read/skitter my way through a book quite quickly. Have you tried direct learning (that is my favorite approach)?
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