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Continue the "Feel The Power" discussion here for faster loading.

It is enjoyable reading.

I've closed the other post.

(If anyone doesn't like that idea, let me know, for future reference).






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Brian,

Class of 2002? 2003? It sounds like your personal interests could take you on a different path. Thought of changing your major to include or focus on your search for alternative living. Pete Bissonette and Paul Schele have made a good go of it. I was undeclared for my first two years of college because I was not sure what I really wanted to do. Once I found out what really peaked my curiosity my grades went from 2.8 to 3.6 and still climbing. If your grades are average it may be less the students fault and more the topics fault to ignite your passions. You are still very young, it will never be easier than it is now to make the changes.

Jeff






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Class of 2002? 2003? It sounds like your personal interests could take you on a different path. Thought of changing your major to include or focus on your search for alternative living.

(2002) That certainly would be the ideal! The question is, how does one go about pursuing such a divergent interest? Unfortunately, my undergraduate major is locked in....You know what? I think I will spend some time in the coming weeks researching just what is out there in terms of graduate school and potential occupation. My impression is that there is a dearth of opportunity in this area.

Signman, looks like you are getting out of the sign business? What are you going for in college and beyond?

If your grades are average it may be less the student's fault and more the topic's fault to ignite your passions.

Totally! School is such a chore. Especially considering we forget 95% of what we learn after 6 months of graduating (according to Rex Steven Sikes.) University folks are still operating within an educational framework that is hundreds of years old. It's like the difference between Freud and Bandler. It's annoying. I think someone needs to shake them up a bit. They could learn a lot about learning from people like Scheele, Wenger, and especially from the Zen learning mindset.

It is no problem, and indeed, is a joy to spend 10 hours straight reading or writing about altered states of consciousness or philosophy or peak performance, etc. Whereas, it takes all the willpower I can muster to do 1 measily hour of 'schoolwork'.

You know, that kind of reminds of Paul Scheele's voice on the Photoreading Personal Learning Course... On the last cassette, I think, he mentions how he feels when he walks into a library. In the most maniacal voice he says something like, 'I feel like a kid in a candy store, I walk in and see the collected knowledge of mankind and think... IT'S ALL MINE!!!! MUHUHAHAHAHAHA" Okay, so I added the laugther It's that kind of megaolomaniac attitude--to be absolutely driven toward something--that in my mind, makes life worth living. GANUS!







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Signman, I agree with you 100%. Edison did not appear to be an innate/typical creative genius. I don't even think he was that intelligent.
To use Scheele's NB model of receptive, generative, persistent.

He was persistent in the extreme. He gets 10 out of 10 here. He had Trinidad Hunt's Ganus--curiosity, passion, fire, etc.

I think that what he LACKED in natural GENERATIVE genius ability,
he made up for in his RECEPTIVITY breaks--his breakthrough 'idea naps'.

The man knew how to access the power of his subconscious mind 'on demand', whereas Tesla, Einstein, and Faraday seemed to have a more innate and 'constant' generative stream.

So, let's can the natural brilliance of the "Einstein Factor" for moment.
And let's take up the artificial brilliance of the "Edision Factor".

WHAT IF EDISON HAD GOTTEN 8 HOURS SLEEP EACH NIGHT AND NO NAPS?

THAT is the question!

The more I read and experiment, the more I am convinced that:
"Delta sleep may be the highway to geniushood."

I'll try to explain why I think this is the case as explicitly as I can:
In normal sleep, we go through about 4 or 5 90 minute cycles composed of about 70 minutes NREM (delta) sleep and about 20 minutes REM (theta) sleep.

Cycles! What appears to cause the transition of one stage of sleep to another? Say you are even on Delta resource and Theta resource.

A quick example:
I. Right before bed: Delta = 1%, Theta = 1%
II. Asleep for 70 minutes (NREM) Delta = 5, Theta = 1
III. Asleep for 20 minutes (REM) Delta = 1, Theta = 10
IV. Asleep for 70 minutes (NREM) Delta = 20, Theta = 5
V. Asleep for 20 minutes (REM) Delta = 15, Theta = 40
VI. Asleep for 70 minutes (NREM) Delta = 80, Theta = 30
VII. Asleep for 20 minutes (REM) Delta = 70, Theta = 100
VIII. Asleep for 70 minutes (NREM) Delta = 90, Theta = 90

BOOM! you wake up, because both types of sleep are satiated and the numbers are too close to see-saw back and forth another time.

So, it is an abundance of one type of sleep resource over another that causes the onset of a new stage!

Sleep specialists have known this for a while. Now, my question is how can we leverage this knowledge to both promote genius abilites and to increase the number of waking hours?

By satiating Delta resource to the MAX with continual Delta Meditation, you create a HUGE imbalance. Delta resource is somewhere near 100%, whereas theta resource is somewhere down low.

JUST IMAGINE HOW POTENT IMAGE STREAMING WOULD BE IN SUCH A SCENARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your mind is literally itching to express theta!!! Just lie down for a second and WAM BAM, instant THETA SPIKES off the charts!!! KABOOM!!!!!

Instant hypnogogia. Instant Genius Power.
Welcome to the Edison Factor... the subject of my next book (i wish).

Mr. Bissonette, put that in your Genius Code!

Didn't DaVinci also take only naps?

Is that so? Fascinating...

I've heard many times that most geniuses are habitual nappers. I'm surprised no one has ever made this connection before!


Continue the "Feel The Power" discussion here for faster loading. It is enjoyable reading.

cool. I wasn't sure if it was going just a tad off topic from the original post...







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Brian,
Something you mentioned earlier triggered some observations I had regarding the concept of genius. Since some of us have been working with the Personal Genius paraliminal, hopefully there will be some ideas of value and relevance here.

You're quote from Part 1 of this thread:
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All true geniuses are visual thinkers…
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In your earlier post, this statement I quoted absolutely leaped out at me. At first, I found it to be a very rigidly conceived description how genius is channeled (deleting other possibilities). I also found it provocative and intriguing, so my second thought was to explore your premise -- to see where it lead. You obviously have some detailed information on the relationship between delta and one's visually accessed creative abilities. I haven't studied that 'chunk' myself, and found your mention of it interesting.

In one respect, for us to even speak meaningfully here, we would first have to recognize and validate a piece of linguistic coding labeled 'genius' (and unconsciously assume the corollary that anyone who wasn't or didn't exhibit 'genius' fell into a category called 'not-genius' or 'other-than-genius'.) Next, we would have to agree on or, at least, assume we have a common definition of what 'genius' specifically refers to here.

How dare I question the idea of genius? After all, isn't it readily observable that there are certain people in the world who are so deeply inspired that they bring things into being for the benefit of us all -- in a completely obvious way that's impossible to miss? The light bulb…the automobile…etc., etc.? Yes, there are some major wonderful discoveries, the influences of which reach into virtually everyone's life. You betcha.

While I recognize and appreciate these things and the people who :"brought 'em through", I'm also looking at another piece of the scenery here: In popular folklore and in the culture in general the concept of genius is so deeply ingrained that it's taken as an absolute given and, apparently, considered beyond question by most people.

People will typically debate whether 'so-and-so's' a genius or not (based on a difference of personally-selected criteria, which is usually not explicitly laid out--hence each party can't quite figure why the other person can't "see the obvious truth of my way"), ….but the very notion of 'genius' ITSELF always seems to be taken as a sacrosanct, built-in part of reality.

My somewhat alternative perspective around the idea of genius is that, if we wish to consciously identify something called 'genius' -- it's perhaps a dormant potentiality in all of us waiting to be expressed. My guess is that what gets labeled as genius is simply an ongoing available process that gets expressed in EVERYONE, in some form, to some degree.

I think it goes on all the time, but not necessarily always in big, grandiose "what a genius he/she is"-type ways. Most often, I think it gets expressed in subtle, barely perceivable ways -- on a mundane level. Then there are the big breakthroughs To one person, it might be plain old 'ingenuity'. To another, it might come in the form of an 'aha' or creative breakthrough in some previously stuck area of life. A metaphysically-oriented person might call this Divine Inspiration, or something similar.

The Personal Genius tape, I think, gives us a way to go in and trigger this process toward a given outcome DIRECTLY -- and with lasered precision. I think this same capacity that The Great Ones employed might be available to each of us in our own lives, toward outcomes WE OURSELVES value. It's a way of deliberately bringing many of our creative unconscious resources to bear. I think when I person listens to the Personal Genius tape, if their unconscious responds favorably to the term 'genius' -- what's happening is that a verbally encoded representational system gets triggered. All finite pieces of information subconsciously stored away and encoded with the term 'genius 'are mobilized toward a chosen outcome

My intent here is not so much to take your statement to task, but to explore it. You were obviously referring to something specific. If you were specifically referring to manifestations of genius in terms of mechanical inventions, I'd say your comment was dead-on accurate. Tesla and Edison's hands would have most likely been completely tied without the ability visualize their inventions in vivid detail.

Let's assume here for a sec (as many people do) that certain musicians exhibit genius. I think it's safe to say that most musicians rely PRIMARILY on their auditory channel, while other channels such as visual and kinesthetic -- in relation to creating music -- are largely out of conscious awareness. In this context, the assertion that 'all true geniuses are highly visual thinkers' loses its relevance. I'm not sure what role delta plays in the conception of music. I suppose it's possible that a person could experience a visual representation of the music while in delta while experiencing it through an auditory channel in their day-to-day beta state. Who knows? To me, that's just one possibility. Studies in synesthesia seem to suggest all sorts of possible overlapping of sensory channels. Could there be a different dominant sensory channel depending on whether the brainwave level is at beta, alpha, theta, or delta? Hmmn…. You mention in you’re your post that delta is purely visual.

But the statement 'all true geniuses are highly thinkers' still implies having the ability to visualize vividly at a conscious level, at will. There are people who are held up as geniuses who aren't able to or simply don’t do this. They consciously rely on another dominant sensory channel such as auditory or kinesthetic.







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This is all very interesting, Brian, but I'd like to point out that according to the lidurature that comes with the holosync tapes, most people on the program achieve 4 - 5 hours of sleep. This is a combination of the 1 / 1 1/2 meditation (the last half an hour or hour delta) with the floating tape designed for sleep. The material was written some time ago - I'm not sure how well it held up.

He diesn't say whether or not you still need power naps, or if you sleeping needs are entirely satisfied.






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Paul, deep breaths... Slowww down the oscillations, my friend!

I honestly didn’t give the statement ‘all true geniuses are visual thinkers’ much thought when I wrote it. I’ve never really questioned the premise. It’s actually not mine. I got it from Win Wenger’s The Einstein Factor –which I do not have with me at the moment.

But the synaesthesia thing makes perfect sense as well. Wenger mentions that too. Also, there are definitely auditory geniuses and kinesthetic geniuses and other types of geniuses, for sure. I also agree that everyone has access to genius abilities if they know how to tap into them—consciously or unconsciously. For those of us who have been thinking analytically for years—we must supply a code for the lock that the educational system has created to keep in the powers of our other-than-conscious minds.

Tony Buzan talks a lot about thinking visually as well in regard to mind maps. Really, though, when I refer to ‘thinking visually’ it’s just “the opposite of thinking analytically.” None of these ‘if, then’ heuristics. Beta vs. Theta. Left brain vs. Whole brain.

When I refer to ‘genius’ I am simply referring to “people who have an innate or acquired ability to access the untapped powers of their subconscious minds.” True geniuses I would say are more innate, whereas geniuses like Edison use techniques. Though, the end result is *the same*—expression of genius ability, aha’s, spontaneous right action, divine inspiration, etc.

You mention in you’re your post that delta is purely visual.

Surely not! Did I write that? To my knowledge it has nothing to do with visual processing. Think of your personal genius as your theta waves. The theta state is the PhotoState and the Image Streaming State. It occurs whenever you begin to visualize or whenever your subconscious power is accessed en masse by the conscious mind.

See, the technique that I pioneered above is to get your Delta resource up to 100% via the deepest form of meditation possible. This will eliminate your desire for sleep for the next 7 or so hours. Not only does this reduce the need for sleep, but it also DEPRIVES you of building up Theta resource during REM sleep.

In this manner, while you are awake, your brain will stop at nothing to express theta!!!

HENCE, activation of your genius circuits while you are awake!

BLASTS of theta, visualization, insight, connections flood into me like a rolling river--Everywhere I look there are connections, old memories resurfacing. All I have to do is ask myself a question, stare blankly at wall, breathe a little and *poof*, there it is.

It’s taken a couple days of doing this—at first I felt kind of dumb and tired from the lack of sleep, but once my body and mind adjusted after about five days—at least I think they’ve adjusted—Energy and Genius are most assuredly in abundance!

A side note. Have any of you ever heard of the third eye? It feels like there is a bloody third eye about to pop out of the center of my head!! It feels almost like my brain has a muscle there or something. It’s rather pleasant, actually … it appeared two days ago. I’ve always heard of the third eye in relation to psychic abilities. Wait... let’s see if I can bend spoons yet... nope, not yet That’s next week. This is so crazy!

Actually, I sometimes get a weaker type of sensation there when I study, but I thought it was either eye strain or an itch…

Also, man o man, the ‘3, 2, 1, flower’ technique that Scheele implanted in us? Woah! That puts me out every time. My forehead lights up big-time as soon as I see the flower. Plus my head falls forward kind of like when people are hypnotized on television.

PS. This is the best website on the planet!!!!!

Groovy...

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whatthe222,
You are correct. I have found that 1 hour of delta meditation satiates my sleep needs for the next 6 to 8 waking hours.

That is why, I suggest spreading three meditations throughout the day, every 7 or so hours.

The chart that Anna Wise provides in her book, The High Performance mind is very illustrative.

Right, draw or imagine a quadrant graph:

Aroused Mind = +y
Relaxed Mind = -y
Aroused Body = +x
Relaxed Body = -x

Delta meditation is in the absolute lower left-hand corner. Complete and utter relaxation of body and mind. MUCH much deeper than even the deepest sleep.

As I recall from somewhere on the web, in this state, the body releases massive amounts of human growth hormone and also an inordinate amount of cellular regeneration occurs.

peace

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian649:
Paul, deep breaths... Slowww down the oscillations, my friend!

Hee hee. Do I owe you money for the lesson? At least you didn't call me Grasshopper! I would caution you here though Brian, a lot of people wouldn't take too kindly to that--could come off condescending. I'm sure it wasn't meant that way. Just a friendly little people awareness tip.

quote:

I honestly didn’t give the statement ‘all true geniuses are visual thinkers’ much thought when I wrote it. I’ve never really questioned the premise. It’s actually not mine. I got it from Win Wenger’s The Einstein Factor –which I do not have with me at the moment.

What seemed an casual comment to you, to me deserved some words. How 'bout that whole "individual differences" thing, anyway?! I have Win Wenger's book somewhere, maybe I'll dig it out and scan for his ideas on visual thinking.

quote:
Tony Buzan talks a lot about thinking visually as well in regard to mind maps. Really, though, when I refer to ‘thinking visually’ it’s just “the opposite of thinking analytically.”

I've found visual thinking to be a wonderful asset that can be accessed readily through practicing mnemonics. At times, I've been amazed at the near-perfect visual recall. Now, I'm going for more consistency.


quote:
You mention in you’re your post that delta is purely visual.

Surely not! Did I write that?Groovy...



I paraphrased, incorrectly. Oops. The statement was 'theta is pure visual'.

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PS. This is the best website on the planet!!!!! ).]


It's up there alright. I'm grateful it exists.









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it could come off condescending.

Paul, you’re totally right! I apologize. Reading that over, it doesn’t sound too good. I’ve been running on big-time automatic pilot these past couple days. When the inner critic recedes... so does, well, self-criticism. Perhaps some self-criticism is a good thing? That’s the problem with depriving yourself of dreams... life takes on a dreamlike quality.

Just a friendly little people awareness tip
Funny you should say that, I've been noticing that my people interactions have been getting off the wall in terms of enthusiasm and obliviousness... you may have noticed the progressive insanity of my posts... I feel like a mad genius! (maybe I should get some real sleep? ... it's been so long...)

Actually, now you’ve got me thinking!! My freshman psych professor, Robert Sternberg wrote a book a couple years back called ‘Successful Intelligence’. In it, he posits that there are three different types of intelligence ‘that matter’.

I. Creative
II. Analytical
III. Practical

A great part of the book is tearing down the IQ test as a measure of genius. He says that IQ merely measures Analytical intelligence and not the other two. And he says that all three matter. So, THINKING VISUALLY to Sternberg is only one-third what it takes to be ‘successfully intelligent’.

Using his perspective. Perhaps there are three different kinds of geniuses?

Creative Geniuses – Tesla, Einstein
Analytical Geniuses – John Stuart Mill
Practical Geniuses – Carnegie, Ford

(John Stuart Mill especially was perhaps the greatest Analytical Thinker who ever walked the earth. His autobiography? I don’t think he was to be envied though. Man, that poor kid had no childhood—and no emotions.)

Perhaps a Renaissance Man is all three? That surely is the ideal.

These further correspond with the three types of brainwave states:

Creative Genius – Theta waves –accessing the subconscious for creativity, insight, and options
Analytical Genius – Beta waves –conscious examination, weighing of opposites
Practical Genius – Alpha waves –automatic, spontaneous, efficient, reticular action

But... 'notice' that Analytical intelligence seems to be absent from Paul Scheele's model:

Creative -- Receptive, Generative
Analytical -- ? (shuts off whole-mind?)
Practical -- Persistent

...there are so many theories out there...
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YOU KNOW...
I think I need to take a break from thinking about this stuff for a while.. maybe a couple days. Maybe go suffocate some brain cells? What day is it? I don't even know! Row row row your boat... Where am I? gently down the stream... What am I doing? Merrily merrily merrily merrily... Who am I?
Life is but a dream...

Perhaps its time to put this insanity to rest?

and a word to the wise.. beware of listening to Personal Genius several hundred times a day... you never know where it may take you!

Okay, that's it...
Brian's Brain is going offline.

Peace All!






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