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How do i know if I am incorrectly crossing my eyes or photoreading? The page is blurry and I see the blip page. I saw in the archives that we may actually just be crossing our eyes when we are actually thinking things are going well.

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One way to check if you are using peripheral vison or cross eyed is to have a look at magic eye pictures. If the image comes forward then you have the correct focus.

Cross eyed will feel more strained whereas parallel vision (the desired focus for photoreading) is relaxed.

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RUebel, the same thing was/is bothering me as well. As a kid I was crossed-eyed and had to undergo an eye surgery. After that I was OK. I also worry that I'm not just damaging my eyesight. Now I'm new to PR and am still practicing the focus thing but when I first tried to see the blip page I tried to hard and nothing happened. Then after relaxing I went with the exercise where you gaze at your own feet and bring the book into the visual field- BAM -there was the blip. After doing it a couple of times I was able to see the blip even when I gazed trough the center of the book and now I get it easily right after opening my eyes. The other thing is mantaining to see the blip when turning pages. That's when I'm worried that I simply cross and not diverge. But that's what I do when I loose the blip. I try to move on with the X-technique and see the white space and the corners of the book. At that point the blip page often comes back to me and I carry on with it. Even when I see the blip I tend to get the rest of the pages into the peripheral vision from time to time. It sort of helps me keep my eyes relaxed and that what Alex mentioned when he answered your post- it should feel relaxed. Now don't take my experience to seriously- I'm new to PR, only had the course for some 14 days and would like to see what Alex or other more experienced readers have to say to the way I do the focusing. Maybe it OK so but maybe I really simply cross eyes.

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While you are photoreading slip in one of those magic eye pictures. If in the picture the background recedes and the other images pop forward you have the correct focus.

If it looks like the images have been punched into the paper (like holes) then you are probably crossing your eyes.

By slipping in the 3D picture while you are photoreading you can assure yourself that you are doing it correctly. If you are really concerned that you may be doing it wrong let go of the blip and use the imaginary X technique with a soft gaze. Photoread the book upside down. After a while the blip may show up in which case you will know you got it right when you've been using the relaxed daydream type gaze.

Yes, we go into photofocus when we daydream. We look without looking and often fail to notice how we are seeing the cocktail weenie effect.

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Alex, thanks! That's a good idea and I'll give it a try. But if you are willing I would like to discuss this theme a bit more. I have no experience with viewing 3D pictures so I searched the internet briefly and found some interesting sites on this theme. It seems there are two kinds of stereograms (maybe more, but I didn't search that intensely). Anyway the single image stereograms can be made for cross-eyed viewing or wall-eyed viewing. I believe that when PR we must use the wall-eyed view. We orient the axes of our eyes to infinity, that is trying to see trough the plane while focusing on the image plane. If we cross eyes while looking at the stereogram made for wall-eyed viewing the objects sunk into the image instead popping out of it. That's what you ment, right? So, when PR we must use the same technique as if looking at the random dot stereogram made for wall-eyed view. I must say that when trying to see the image in the stereogram in the PR manual book I wasn't successfull. I guess that when I see the blip I actually cross and not diverge. I'll go with the X-technique for a while and try to find some stereograms to practice diverging on them and try to remember the feeling.

RUebel I hope you're not mad because I jumped into this discussion in your post. I would have posted a new topic but I think that the themes relate. Also sorry for some misspelled words - didn't have a dictionary at hand to check them out.

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Ales,

What you call wall eyed view is generally called parallel vision. Yes, that is the focus you want for photoreading. Don't worry if it wasn't very successful planting a stereo picture into the book while doing it... if you practice looking at 3D stereo pictures as an aside from photoreading you'll know how it feels when you are looking at them and can apply that focus to photoreading.

The image in the photoreading manual is kind of tricky because unlike most 3D images where the main image is in the middle of the page... the image itself is around the edges making the center look empty in fact if you look at this one because the image is near the boarder it looks like looking into a cave.

To help visually I'll give you a couple of links that may help
http://www.vision3d.com/stereo.html
This link will explain 3D vsion
http://www.vision3d.com/3views.html
This one shows parallel vison (photofocus ) As well as cross eyes (not photofocus)

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and check out the links showing methods of achieving photofocus...

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Alex,

thank's a lot for taking your time. I checked your profile. The number of posts is amazing. (By the way, what do you do for living?) I sure hope that one day I'll have the experience and the knowledge to help PR rookies (like me) the way you do.

Just one more question:
If you're not in correct photofocus, that's when you cross eyes, is the photoreading step useless?

Once again thank's for advices and links. I'll check them out. Now, I'm of to practice.

Bye,

Ales

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It goes into your mind just the same... going crossed is more likely to cause vision problems, eye strain and headaches which are more counter productive to photoreading than not putting the information into the inner mind. So aim for relaxing the eyes... if it feels like you are straining lose the blip and go for the imaginary X

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