Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ PhotoReading, Memory Optimizer Where do I get a device like paul scheele have on his seminars to show brainwaves?

Hi all

I have purchased a video from one auf Paul R.Scheeles hold Photoreading Seminars. There demonstrated the Photoreading Process with a device wich showes the brain waves.
He said it`s not an eeg, it`s a simple device. I really wan`t to have such an device, because I also want to test Brain Wave generated Patterns and see what they do, and so on....

What is the name of such an device ?
Waht is the price of such an device ?
If anybody know where such a device can be purchased pleas tell me. I`m very interessted in.

Thanks in advanced

Ok finaly I`ve found the produkt.... which Paul uses at the seminar. It`s available at http://www.ibva.com/ They have a real interesting Produkt portfolio. I think I will purchse such an device no matters what its price.

They haven`t a price list online, but I wrote them a E-Mail and hope it would be answerd as soon as possible.

If somebody knows the price please tell me !!
I don`t need the actual proce just want to know is it about 500 - 1000$ or 1000 - 40000$ or even more....

If they answer I will give you more information.

I can recomand to visit the Website and read it, really crazy things they do with their produkts.
For instance controling games with your brain. Or let your plant buy stocks at the stockexchange, or doors they open automatically if you thing they should open. Wow really amazing this company and their projects.

Hmmm it seems the company won`t sell their products in future. They told me they are busy on spezial projects and may sell the products to public again in future, but dont know.

Very pitty, does anybody knows another similar product ?

The IVBA is in excess of $3000.

If you only want to see yourself photoreading that is a rather expensive toy in the first place.

What is it you would like to do with this or a smilar product?

Alex

Hi Alex

No I just want to explore my brain a little bit more. For instance test material like brainwavepatterns generatet in brainwavegenerator or hemy-sync material, paraliminal and so on. Create and test how is my brain reacting. Tracking my sleep and may some of my days to get more information about me. I think such an tool would bring me light years in exploring myself. I have a feedback, which I`m able build on.

If you know a cheaper solution to that please tell me. May I don`t need a device like Paul used may another one would fulldit my requirements too.

I just need a realtime tracking, wich is displayed and can be stored on a computer device. So there should be a good software available.

It may be possible but daunting to construct one yourself from equipment purchased at electronics stores for a fraction of the normal cost here.. I don't remember where one can get a schematics diagram but it's definitely out there.

Are you sure you really need real time tracking? Afterall just because you see what brainwave you're in does not necessarily mean you're in the best brainwave for the task at hand. What's wrong with a system that just trains you? Thoughtstream connects to the Proteus (it's a biofeedback device you can connect to a light and sound, great for training relaxed states, there are even games with biofeedback and heart rate monitors that train you in controlling your physiology.

Alex

Wow AlexK, that's about 3 times what I thought it cost.

I also agree with Fringe. It should be a pretty simple device to manufacture. It must be the low volume that keeps the price so high.

I'll agree with AlexK a little bit too, Psydonym. I did get a chance to use the IBVA, during the retreat last summer, as well as watch others using it. It's just like Paul Scheeles say's in the book and the course, you go right into the correct state within a few seconds of page flipping. A friend who watched me said I'd gone into state during the preparation for PRing.

When people get messed-up on a stuck page, the come out of state for only a second. The more relaxed with the system, barely left it.

Yeah, it would be a neat thing to have and maybe your desire justifies the price. I know mine doesn't.

You are perfection.
Iam2

I think I will purchase a good neurofeedback system one day. First I will try to get in the ideal states automatically like everybody does, simply without a tracking. If I`m good in this, and have read tonns of books concerning neurophysics and so on I will purchse one to do research but this is an far future. Thanks for oyur comments.

By the way I have realized today that I allready archieved states I never thought about it. For instance a so called "vibration" at meditating and also got Lucid Dreams and even some astral projektions. All without a book about, without special generated brainwaves and lighteffects and so on.I got them daily when I was 15 years old and I meditated every day. But didn`t know that I`m meditating and I didn`t know that I had a good progress at. But I stopped with 16 years. Thats pitty if I think about it now. Anyway will archiev this pretty soon again. Have done it several times in the past and know it`s working.

The same things is with photoreading generally. I met an old IT Trainer of mine and told him about photoreading. He wanted to know what it is. I told him the steps and he began to lough and just said I do this for 5 years now and don`t even know about photoreading. Some steps he hadn`t done before but the most maches. He read over 12 IT books (1200 Pages of analytical material each) in one Month. Nearby he worked like everybody and has a family and 4 kids all between 6 and 15 years. He just tried and tried and tried and found someday an solution with fits.

What I just wan`t to say with this little story. We are often on the right way and don`t even know what way it is. But it works, simply and without any help.

Like said in the posts above. Just realized it today :-) --> and so the posts exists.

Anyway thanks for your help

[This message has been edited by Psydonym (edited February 19, 2004).]