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Thank you all for your wise input regarding r attempting to both learn the prwms and taking the MCP cert. I have decided to postpone the exam but i need some input from you guys regarding the following issues; 1. what is considered a modest time frame to master prwms and 2. what is the best approah to mastering this system and preparing for my MCP exam. I can do the following photoread, preview,postview,mindmap. I can't do the following superread, dip,skitter without falling back into old traps. what do you recommend if I postpone the exam for 3 - 4 months. thank as always bri






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Which one is it? Do you know the concepts well enough to explain it to someone else?

Oh and the clincher... Do you have A+???

If you don't you better go to my site right now, and read my blog. I just answered another person's question about what cert to get first.

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Ehrm... A+ is fine if you are gonna do something with computer hardware...but MCP stands for Microsoft Certified Professional, and there are a lot more MCP titles where you don't need A+ at all. MCSE for instance. It helps to explain stuff to other ppl, but it won't help you certify. Why not? because computer hardware and operating system operation don't have much in common... exept that you might get an DMA conflict or something...which you can resolve by picking a free DMA... you don't realy need to know what it is on order to do that.

Once again: for any MCP title, get the transcendes somewhere (study buddy's or something...online sources I will not discuss here because of legal isues, etc) They prepare you with MS like questions in a MS like exam.


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Just read you BLOG NOT5150 ... in that perpective it makes sence to get A+ first.
If you don't know anything about computers I agree it is a must have.
Still, I never had any use for it in my MCSE training, altho it got me into the rhytm of studying.

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Oh gawd.... As someone who has taught certification classes... this is absolutely the worst advice.

Get your foundation first... then do the Microsoft stuff. If you have an MCP/MCSE, without A+ you will NOT be hired by my company.

Gotta learn how to walk before you run.

There is more info on my site.

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Depends on your perspective not5150.
I have completed a foundation in Networking and hardware, not an accredited course like A+, not as in depth as that, but I don't care.
I bought the Mike Meyers A+ book for my own benefit, but it basically goes over what I already know, but more in-depth really.
I'm using the photoreading soley on the A+ book, but the MCP books get my most attention at present.
Of course people will hire you without the A+, I wouldn't worry about it.I have been told by people to egt the A+, as it's a good starter cert for a beginner tech job.
But to be honest I don't find the insides on computers all that interesting, at present, it's system stuff that's my focus.
Of course all things are connected, and they interrealte.I suppose I do agree that the A+ is the way to go, but if you know your computers well and just decide to go for MCP's, this shouldn't outright discount you, as like not5150 prerequisites would.
No offence, just my opinion, you might be missing out on some good people, but I suppose you have to lay down guidelines, so fair enough if that's what you want to do.

Arrrggggh, hang on a minute, this is the PR forum, oops, sorry, back to topic.

brp, I wouldn't put the exam off too long.In fact, book it a little earlier, in my opinion, it'll keep you focused when it's nearer in time.

They say on these boards not to learn PR while learning another subject.They say to choose a book that you have an interest in, but don't need to learn under pressure, this is to start with.
This is good advice.What I'm saying is that if you are comfortable with PR, then you'll be ok, PR does work, every pass you make you will benefit from, so it's cool.

Don't worry about using your old style of reading a little for your MCP studies, don't put pressure on yourself learning PR techniques with a book that you also need to study and learn.Only do this once you know the PR techniques.

I aim to take 210 and 215 soon as possible, and I'm brushing up with activation techniques.

I hope you do well, keep us informed, we're all here to help.

Thanks!

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thanks guys but my question was a follow-up to my eariler discussion with Alexk,photoread4me, and cameron regarding pr and upcoming tests. My question is whAT is considered an average time to grabs the prwms so that i can plan my mcp studies appropiately.






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One can learn the system in a weekend or 12 hours once through with the home study course. If you do the 5 day test on say 3 or 4 books there is no reason you can't do it on more than one book at a time just allow 30 minutes of activation per book with a 30 minute break between activating. It gives you a studying concept and seperates subject matter while allowing integration.

If you're relaxed about it you could easily, in 30 to 60 relaxed minutes per day, be studying using the system within 7 to 14 days. Naturally that will depend on you and what is going on around you. For studying it's best if you can allocate at least 30 minutes to the project per day (60 is ideal for 4 to 6 days per week) That you really need to work out what is best to you but short times every day of the week is better than 4 hours once a week.

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