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#41595 05/05/04 11:37 PM
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wow,amazong story Alex. I thought you've done PR for more than 5 years and it is surprising to hear that you've been doing it only for 2 years.







#41596 05/06/04 06:28 AM
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Alex; i am not limiting human potential on anybody. I think it is great that you have gotten the results that you have & i have publicly stated on this forum in the past that you have developed a high level of expertise in Photoreading in a relatively short period of time.

That being said we all come from different backgrounds & different experiences. Just because you were able to master the system so quickly does not mean that everyone else is going to progress at the same rate you did.
So what if one photoreader takes more time than you did to get to the desired goal of mastering photoreading in the end they will reap the benefits that photoreading has to offer.

I never said or implied that you should not photoread.My point was that most people or should i say many people want to use the photoreading whole mind system to excell whether that means being in a meeting with a group of people & getting information or soulutions to a problem your boss may have requested or using photoreading to get a degree from college in electrical engineering or computer science.

People who would use photoreading to get a degree in electrical engineering will need to use activation techniques they will not be able to get a degree by only photoreading and not doing any activation or studying.

There have been numerous posts on this forum with people having activation problems. In some cases some people did not want to expend the necessary effort to do the activation. I stated this before & i will state it again there is no magic photoread it and i don't have to do any activation i don't have to study. That is one of my reasons for stating that for most people manual activation techniques are very important.

I think sometimes people have unrealistic expecations that are out of whack. Someone wanting to get a degree in computer science in 2 weeks when it would probably take 4 years i would say this person's expecations are out of whack.

Alex; you will note that i said i believe people can get to Paul Scheele's level or Pete Bissonette's level the time they take to get there depends on their backgrounds & previous experiences.

This post about photoreading & not doing any activation kind of reminds me of people wanting instant results like zap put it in a microwave zap instant results i don't have to expend any effort or energy zap instant results photoreading only no activation no studying.

Kind of like people wanting to get a pill if they are overweight & they don't want to make changes in the types of foods they eat or would rather take a pill than exercise.
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Photoread4me.

My points are merely
- that it doesn't take years to become profient. (You said that it took Paul and Pete years to get to this level or profiency in PhotoReading that is misleading since they learnt it quickly too. It's taken a few years to make other aware of there protentials but it was through the use of his photoreading skill that that Paul has created so many fine and unique courses to further human potential.)

- Some books do some books don't need activation, that's for the individual to decide.

- It is possible to learn and get a degree by photoreading books only but the thing is those people learnt to activate the books, had nothing to lose by trying it that way, (They didn't have time to study and would fail so photoreading was better than nothing they still accepted possible failure).

- PhotoReading and not activating... ironically some people do get it and can do exactly that, they have to try it and see. And they will also notice that it doesn't happen always happen usually the activation comes from questions... it doesn't always matter who asks the questions.

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What i am trying to get you to see here is that it is a unreasonable expectation to think that a novice or beginner or someone just starting to learn Photoreading should be expecting the same type of results as Paul Scheele the creator of Photoreading who spend years to get to that point. Photoread4me

No it's not unreasonable...

what is unreasonable is to expect that kind or result from merely listening to the course and not actually doing anything toward learning, experimenting and discovering your own potential. It's easy to overlook the fact that we applied our knowledge first and experiemented to see what more we can do.

Alex







#41598 05/14/04 12:14 AM
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Alex; after thinking about your comments & responses i have to say you are right on & absolutely correct. You rock. sincerely,
Photoread4me






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photoread4me,

Your contributions to the forum is valuable. Your post on this thread alone gave me the opportunity to point out some self limititations that people apply to their thinking about their ability to PhotoRead, that can hinder them.

Thank you for post. I feel that our discussion it has given many food for thought.

Alex







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Well, photoread4me. I gotta tell ya that Paul Scheele may be the creator of the photoreading but it is hard to say he is genius. He pretty much coined the terms that we use a lot into his terms.

"Photoreading"- I hear that the history of photofocus has been thousands of years and some people have used them before Paul Scheele invented.

"superread and dip"- more like scanning. He tries to use other term so that people won't be bored.
Also in elementary and middle school, we were to do homework at the end of chapter problems. Isn't it same as superread and dip?

"preview"- don't we all preview before we read books? Don't we all look at table contents?

"skiterring"- almost same as speedreading. Haven't we learned to read first sentence and the last sentence of paragraphs in school?

"rapid reading"- come on! this is nothing but speedreading.

All these techniques are no different from what we know in our life...
So, photoread4me, all he did was just put these old techniques into his "term."

Anyway, it doesn't sound like he is genius.

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photoread2me; what Paul Scheele has accomplished is remarkable when you think about it. I think Paul Scheele is a brilliant man that has accomplished a lot of good. Paul Scheele has dedicated his life to learning how people learn & helping them to learn better. How about you photoread2me what have you done with your life? Have you created something that is helping a lot of people all over the world making their lives better & enpowering them.

No; not everyone previews in fact many people do not read. True photofocus has been around for thousands of years but in all my years of life on this planet photoreading was the first time i ever heard of getting the other than conscious mind involved in learning.

I think the thing you left out in your post photoread2me is the process of photoreading & exposing the text to the other than conscious mind. This is what separates Photoreading from other conventional reading techniques. As far as i know Photoreading is the only reading program that involves the human brain on both a conscious & other than conscious level.

Incidentally many of the techniques you said were taught in elementary school were not taught as you stated. Another advantage of Photoreading that you are taught advanced reading techniques or strategies.
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quote:
Originally posted by photoread2me:
Well, photoread4me. I gotta tell ya that Paul Scheele may be the creator of the photoreading but it is hard to say he is genius. He pretty much coined the terms that we use a lot into his terms.

I believe it was Buckminster Fuller who said
"Every child is born a genius" Yes society probably went a long way in teaching us we are not genius but Paul is paving the way to rediscover the genius within himself and has invited us to join him in self discovery of our Genius selves.

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"Photoreading"- I hear that the history of photofocus has been thousands of years and some people have used them before Paul Scheele invented.

Odd people in whe world do it naturally Paul figured out a way to teach it to others/

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"superread and dip"- more like scanning. He tries to use other term so that people won't be bored.

If you think that then you're probably not seeing it right. In superreading we are letting the mind read, scanning is only a copying device.

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Also in elementary and middle school, we were to do homework at the end of chapter problems. Isn't it same as superread and dip?

Lucky you had the textbooks. I never came across a textbook that had chapter problems at the end. School couldn't afford them. We had to meticulously copy what we needed to learn off the board. Frustrating for the teachers because they make great doors but lousy windows, we couldn't see what we were supposed to be writing and they couldn't clear the board to put the rest up during the lesson period. Shame to think everyone has access to the same level of education.

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"preview"- don't we all preview before we read books? Don't we all look at table contents?

Nope 90% don't. It's "havta read stuff makes no point to them to know da content,ya gotta start on page one anyway and read to the end of the book .... groan". 60% of those books are lucky to be even opened during the school year.

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"skiterring"- almost same as speedreading. Haven't we learned to read first sentence and the last sentence of paragraphs in school?

Nope again, you know of course that 60% of college graduates have less than a 9th grade reading skill. Part of the reason is they were never taught the basics of reading because many of the teachers don't know them either.

Reading is viewed as a skill you either can do or can't do and if you can't you have to work damned hard at it to catch keep up with the rest of the class or you're a laughing stock. So those that can't become very skilled at covering their disability. With the number of students in the class teacher don't have time to notice that the laggers are just suffering from an inability to read.

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"rapid reading"- come on! this is nothing but speedreading.

Wrong technique! Speed Reading is a constant pace throught the whole book no variation and done as fast as possible.

Rapid reading is the closest thing to regular reading in the PhotoReading system. Speed varies from photoreading speed, superreading, average reading speed and even analytical reading which is as slow as 90 words per minute. The reader adjust according to his or her requirement and parts of the book.

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All these techniques are no different from what we know in our life...
So, photoread4me, all he did was just put these old techniques into his "term."

There are many skills in the system that are based on sound reading skills. However you seem to be taking it for granted that everyone has had access to your privileged education.

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Anyway, it doesn't sound like he is genius.
photoread2me


Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Alex.

[This message has been edited by Alex K. Viefhaus (edited May 18, 2004).]






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