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#12378 09/22/02 01:05 PM
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ahh ok, well maybe margaret missread your post!

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Hummm Kris...NCR

Seeker, I listened to the audio and is sounded so familar I had to check my CDs, since I haven't used them in a while. It sounds to me like it is from Theta CD from the Brainwave Suite. On my CD the nature sounds come out better than on my sound card and on the CDs the 3D effect is much more pronounced. In anycase yep thats what the brainwave Suite pretty much sounds like. Nice to have playing in the background too.

Alex






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Alex, don't throw a hissy fit over such an unimportant mistake. Lighten up.

i'm beginning to wonder if kris is just another one of your users; or, perhaps he's your alter ego

don't you have better things to do other than get on my case? no? you poor things






#12381 09/23/02 02:06 AM
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There's a Theta sample on the Monroe Institute site, it last more than a few minutes and you don't have to listen to Bill whats his name trying to sell you somethin'. In fact you can listen all nite long. It's a java applet, and you can insert your mp3 or real audio tunes above it or below, whatever, hemi-sync is the name of it. It's where it all started, I think.






#12382 09/24/02 07:04 AM
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hah right...

how about u ask lsc to check up the ip's and then check the ones on alex and the ones on myself??

yer good one sherlock

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#12383 09/24/02 07:09 AM
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FYI folks: I had some reservations about the claim that the Alpha/Theta CD from the Brainwave Suited CD collection by Dr Jeffrey Thompson will help bring about the Awakened Mind as described by M/s Anna Wise in her literature.

Since I've owned and used the CD selection for more than 6 years I found that claim difficult to believe based on my experience alone. When I checked the brochure that came with the CDs and compared the typical mind mirror response from someone using the Alpha/Theta CD to an awakened mind response. I found that the results definately were not Awakened Mind? There was too much Beta and almost No Delta.

Since the brochure was printed in 1995 and I knew from M/s Wises site that the images were continuously evolving. I thought that perhaps what Dr Thompson thought was typical then may have been updated to concur with M/s Wises data. So I did a search.

With a search of Dr Jeffrey Thompson's site and found no claim that his CDs brought about the Awakened Mind. I read all of his articles (picked up some useful information too From a PhotoReaders point of view I had an interesting learning experience going through his site). However, nowhere does he reference the Awakened Mind. Nor does his list of resources make any reference to M/s Anna Wises work. In other words he himself does not make the claim that his Alpha/Theta CD will bring about the Awakened Mind.

M/s Wises site provided some minor useful information. It does say that the Awakened Mind is a result of a combined Alpha/Theta entrainment.

More useful was the information from a forum archive on developing the awakened mind. Basically it boiled down to Self Relaxation.

The 'typical' mind mirror from using the Alpha/Theta CD is anything but the awakened mind. Therefore I can only assume that it might be possible for some individuals to experience the awaken mind (ad hoc) using the CD. As it is the only CD I know of that combines Alpha/Theta entrainment.

Having used these CD for some 6 years I can only say.. Don't get your hopes up

If you want to follow up my search
Dr Jeffreys site is here http://www.neuroacoustic.com/

Anna Wise' site is here http://www.annawise.com/the_work/

Search engines used to search term Awakened Mind... Dogpile (most productive) Google and Webcrawler

The Brainwave Suite Set referenced to Consist of 4 CDs

CD ID 5229-63051-2 Alpha 2 Tracks
Track 1 Alert Relaxation (light - mid Alpha) 20:47
Track 2 Meditation (mid- deep alpha) 20:34
CD ID 5229-63052-2 Theta 2 Tracks
Track 1 Insight & Intuition (light - mid theta) 20:58
Track 2 Creativity & Inspiration (mid - deep theta) 20:43
CD ID 5229-63053-2 Delta 2 Tracks
Track 1 Letting go of Stress (light-mid delta) 20:54
Track 2 Rejuvenating Sleep (mid-deep delta)21:04
CD ID 5229-63054-2 Alpha-Theta 2 Tracks
Track 1 Emotional Openness 19:50
Track 2 Intimate Communication (alpha-theta) 19:58

Purchased as a set copyright 1995 The Relaxation Company, Inc Roslyn, New York

Alex

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Having read Cade & Coxhead's exelent book and recently Anna Wise, I believe the Awakened Mind is a coke bottle shaped pattern, not just an alpha/theta although I wold give a weeks salary to rent a mind mirror to find out just what my pattern is. I wonder if it is possible to get there without equipment. I get pretty deep with Thompson's tapes, but don't always go to the same level every time. However they seem to hold me at the bottom level so I dont actually fall asleep. Brain waves fascinate the heck out of me.







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Now I'm really confused. Which tapes do you recommend Anna Wise or Dr. Thompson?






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bhenry,
I used the Thompson tapes until i started using holosync. Holosync is more powerful than anything Thompson has put out. So, i recommend the Thompson tapes, The Brain Wave Suite.

I also recommend the Anna Wise book, The High Performance Mind.






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