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#13812 10/16/03 09:48 PM
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Thanks for the information,it is appreciated.As for awakenedminds I ordered it yesterday.I am also doing a few paraliminal tapes which I enjoy.It has been about three weeks since I ended with Holosync,which I did for two years.I feel better than ever and enjoy the feel of investigating different systems.I called Centerpointe to see what the price was for the next level.I did ask for a discount which was not granted.It was $247 for eight months,which I would pay if it produced the results it promised.It is good to know that other people feel the same way as I do.I was on the Centerpointe discussion group awhile back for a few days.The replies I received there were totally for Holosync and hinted that I had a problem or blockage as they put it.The bottom line is that I went a different direction which I am happy about.Thanks again






#13813 10/17/03 11:10 PM
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There's also synchronicity program available which is a non profit organization. Technically. I heard awakening minds takes you only as far as awakening level 4. Can anyone confirm or present different evidence to this?

I don't know why it doesn't work for some people. It might be the product but i doubt it. Some people can barely listen every day without massive overwhelm.

Does anyone know of any products that take it as far as holosync? All the way to the last level of holosync? What are the technical aspects of carrier frequ






#13814 10/18/03 07:58 PM
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#13815 10/20/03 05:55 AM
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I assume from the Brain Wave Generator website that one could put together a binaural beat track with a progressively lower carrier frequency. Am I correct in assuming that this can be done with a simple rain track, (as used with Awakened Minds) as opposed to the musical overlays that feel like New Age Geritol for the brain?

Btw, I admit to having my own crappy tastes in music; I just don't want them for entrainment or meditation purposes. Just the rain please. Or maybe chickens . . . or a field of geese . . . hey, even a backhoe would do.








#13816 10/22/03 06:42 AM
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Yeah, thinking for yourself and trusting your own experience can be a terrible blockage for a lot of things ... namely getting screwed over.

I love it when you notice some things that go against prevailing dogma in a context, comment on it, and the people in that context say, "there must be something wrong with you."

I remember in religion class in high school another student asked me whether I was an atheist based on my comments and questions. I told him I was an agnostic. I then had to explain to him what that was. He looked at me in shock and disbelief and said, "You must be crazy."

Sometimes people attack you for putting dings in their treasured illusions. Other times, they are just trying to make sense of your experience in terms of their experience and aren't attacking at all. Sometimes people think only what they are told to think. They cannot interpret their own experience, it seems, in ways that are different from the frames that have been put around them by others. It's freaky.

It's pretty wild to hear people say what they have been told to say.

A lot of people, as I have said earlier, who are getting into Holosync appear to be having a great deal of trouble with how to interpret their experiences. They then come here or wherever and ask others ... to do what? Their thinking and deciding for them?







#13817 10/28/03 08:39 PM
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Babayada

since you hate the subject so much i don't see why you just leave it alone. You say the same stuff over and over again. I think you made your point. There are sceptic naysayers in every spiritual avenue you can take. They might be right, or they might just have issues. Who knows?!

I don't care if holosync has been a big waste of money and i certainly don't expect a small minority of folks who bother with message boards to indicate to me whether a product is succesful or not. I'm not a holosync fanatic. In fact i'm looking for alternatives. Not because it didn't work for me but because saving money is always a good thing.

Why do you care what other people get up to and what illusions they fall for. You seem to have a big disatisfaction with people making mistakes. So what, the whole thrust of spiritual development is realising and taking resposibility for your emotions and what you percieve. Therefore accepting everyone and everything just as it is as perfect.

The placbo theory can account for much but not sustained for long a length of time. Besides that, the changes and experiences are far behond anything i have ever experienced. Of course this is hard for anyone including yourself to believe as only experiencing it allows you to know it.

If the changes acrued thus far stay with me and nothing else changes then i'm very very happy with the result.

Finally, i like many others have tried normal meditation and lacked the percvierence to commit. The holosync solution helped me and now i can meditate without it fantastically.

There are many posters on the centrepointe forum whom have meditated for as much as 30 years in various forms before trying holosync and agree to its potency.

I have to agree that it just doesn't work for everyone. There are probaly even better methods to find yet.

Hey, Lester Levenson says 3-4 weeks is all you need to become enlightened...






#13818 10/28/03 09:31 PM
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Holosync does indeed work. No doubt about it. But it will only take you so far. Holosync is fine if you're looking for a veritable Disneyland for the brain.

However, the simplest techniques are often the most powerful in the long run. Here's one that's free and doesn't require much time to do. And yes ... you can use it to supplement your Holosync practice or any other, for that matter.

Check it out at http://www.hereandnowmeditation.com/English/contents.html

shr33m







#13819 10/29/03 03:35 AM
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I post repeatedly about it because I feel very strongly about it.

Aren't you repeating your opinions as well?








#13820 10/29/03 08:46 AM
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I think i've expressed my view as fully as i can now. So that is all i have to say.






#13821 10/29/03 09:49 AM
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You seem to be very competive in forcing your opinions on the rest of us. If Holosync works for many of us, why not leave it at that. Your repeated criticisms seem pointless. If you dislike Holosync so much, leave it. It's not like taxes, there is a choice.






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