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#18598 11/15/00 07:32 PM
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Since blip is a hot topic at the moment- What is the purpose of seeing the blip page?

If it is to see the entire page then surely you can make the distance between your eyes and the book further.

Are there any evidence for the blip step being a contributory component of PR?

Not being pessimitic, just curious






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seeing the blip page seems to be a product of seeing the entire page at once - not an activity itself.






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The bllip page is, I think, more of a marker of a particular state than anything else. Seeing the blip page means that you have diverged your eyes and are viewing each page through each eye as opposed to both eyes at once. There have been a number of successful PhotoReaders, I have heard, who have succeeded without ever seeing the blip page.

I think that those who have trouble initially getting the system to work fixate too much on the blip page, thinking that if they can "just get the PhotoFocus state right" then everything else will fall into place. My own opinion is that they are putting the emphasis in the wrong area - they should instead, I believe, be looking at ways to improve the communicationo between their inner and outer consciousness, and learning the signals that the inner mind provides when activating material that has been PhotoRead. You pick up a lot of information everyday subliminally - most of us simply don't do a very good job of accessing it.

An article that is relevent in this whole area is locatedf at:
http://www.sidis.net/Unconscious%20Intelligence.htm

and deals with the one time prodigy, W. J. Sidis', view on unconscious perception. It makes some interesting reading.






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ckernis,
I read that article you mentioned. I wonder why he excluded Jung's philosophy of the unconscious? He & Jung were contempories.

The reason i mention this is b/c Jung made it very clear that the unconscious to be unconscious can never be made conscious. The only way for an unconscious content to recognized is thru a projection. We then see the unconscious content reflected back to us so that it can be integrated. But, even w/ the projection, we can't say that the unconscious has become conscious.

Just as we have physical instincts, we also have instincts of the psyche called archetypes. To me it is very paradoxical to speak of unconscious intelligence. People playing around w/ ideas & words using logic to make it plausible.

It's interesting reading--for sure.

For some reason i thought that the soft gaze & blip pg. had something to do w/ the brain. That's why flipping the book upside down for PhRing is worthwhile. It also took me time to get the placement of the dictionary words correctly. It had something to do w/ the brain. I'd think it was top in a certain spot & it'd be at the bottom at that same spot.

So, it was my understanding that soft gaze & the blip page has to do w/ the way the brain sees. Then when we're searching for info, we find it quickly.






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Sidis may have ignored mentioning Jung because he was approaching the unconscious from a direction that was not necessarily opposed to Jung, but in a way that might not have been supported by Jung, either. The main point that he was trying to make, if I recall the article correctly, is that the unconscious, rather than being blind and dumb, is actually possessed of far more intelligence (i.e. - consciousness) than we ordinarily ascribe to it, and that it can observe, make deductions, comparisons, etc. without "us" being consciously aware of these processes. The very acts of PhotoReading, dream recall, psychoanalysis, the Silva Method, Image Streaming, etc. are attempts to make the unconscious conscious. So are the ritual methods of a number of aboriginal religious/magical practices.

The problem with any psychological theory is that it will probably never be complete. I think that the mind, metaphorically, is like an infinite room of mirrors - whatever you put in there will be reflected back for you to see. Most psychological theories probably hold a grain of truth to them, partially because they might describe how the mind really works and partially because the mind accomodates the theory. Biologically Adaptive Lexical Learning Systems (B.A.L.L.S.) are a pain that way. :-)

I believe that the PhotoFocus state allows for a "diffusion" of consciousness so that the mind remains in an alpha-theta state, as opposed to beta, while PhotoReading so that the material makes a deeper impression in the inner mind. PhotoFocus is not as difficult a state to attain as people make it out to be. My comment was meant to perhaps shift some of the emphasis that people place on the PhotoFocus state away from that state and onto learning how to pick up on their own inner promptings. We continually pick up material peripherally throughout the day. The PhotoReading step has a lot to do, I think, with picking up material from the page peripherally. The tough part, if there really is one, is getting the information out of our heads once we get it in there. The funny thing about that, however, is that when the "knack" is learned you find that it is really simplicity itself - you simply play and allow it to happen. The inner mind "desires" to help the outer mind. It just needs to be consistently told what to do. It also needs to be listened to and acknowledged on a regular basis (though not always followed - the outer mind's job is to weigh the options that it gets from the inner mind after the "messages" have been received").

One thing that I think would be of enormous benefit to PhotoReaders would be Silva Method training. You can get a home study course for about $50 and the long term benefits, once the system is integrated, are beyond measure.






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ckerins,
Nice read! Thanks for taking the time.
I have really been interested in the Silva info recently.

The below part is from your post. From my reading of Jung's work (I have his collected works & have read all the volumes), he would agree to what is written below.


The main point that he was trying to make, if I recall the article correctly, is that the unconscious, rather than being blind and dumb, is actually possessed of far more intelligence (i.e. - consciousness) than we ordinarily ascribe to it, and that it can observe, make deductions, comparisons, etc. without "us" being consciously aware of these processes benefits...
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But, again i feel that it does not make itself directly known b/c it just can't due to the nature of it. This is the reason for activation techniques. Or, more subtly, we suddenly become aware of something & look to make connections. Eg., had he not questioned his thoughts, he'd have never consciously known the unconscious was working. For most people it works w/o any conscious intervention. Things happen & we go w/ the flow never consciously knowing the underlying influence in the events that take place.









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