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#19405 01/17/01 08:11 AM
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Image streaming could be a big deal if done right.

I know describing must be done aloud, but do I have o use tape recorder (or a another person)? Isn't it just the same if you talk to yourself or imagine you're talking to someone?






#19406 01/17/01 08:21 AM
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Hello Jovo,

No, because you can't give yourself feedback. After Image Streaming, you have to get feedback, this is very important (there is no possible way to get feedback, if you don't talk aloud). This is possible with a tape recorder, or another person.

I hope this help you,

Jascha






#19407 01/18/01 07:32 AM
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My mistake. Did not say it right.

I know Image streaming doesn't work unless you're describing out loud. But, can you describe out loud to yourself or you have to have a tape recorder or someone to listen to you.






#19408 01/18/01 10:44 AM
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Yes, it's important that you tape it, or you must have a listener.

With IS it's important to get feedback, else you won't improve so quick as the book describes (did you read the book?).

Feedback is important for a learning process. No feedback, no learning.

Feedback is one of the things I miss in our schools (Europe, The Netherlands).

It's like darting, if you don't see where you hit the board, you don't know how to improve your darting.

Feel free to ask more. With every question you ask, I will learn more..... (and others to)

I hope this all helps you to make much more progress.

Jascha






#19409 01/19/01 02:33 AM
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I hope I can clarify things a bit. The way I have come to see it is that speaking outloud creates a feedback loop, which is good. Wenger talks about this in his book. But the feedback that is important with a partner, or with a taperecorder, is that you can either talk to your partner, or play back your tape to find out what you said. If you are really in a stream of consciousness, you probably won't remember what you were describing, and so you would miss any answers to your questions that you are using your image stream to answer.

Now if you are just doing it to improve your general intellegence, or work on visualization skills, I'm not sure about the need for a taperecorder or partner, but it still is helpful to be able to review your descriptions and seeing where you might want to improve the way you do it. Like giving more descriptions of non-visual senses, like taste or smell that would complete the experience.


I do not have extensive experience with image streaming, so if anyone that has been doing this for awhile would like to comment, please do.






#19410 01/19/01 07:55 AM
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One other aspect:

I sometimes pratice Imagestreaming. I found that WITHOUT a tape, I lose focus and it becomes more like the everyday conversations in my head.
The tape,presenting a POTENTIAL audience, helps me to focus on the Imagestream. It simply helps to concentrate.

Similar experiences can be made by acting: While on stage with an audience, I'm totally focussed, in the moment, sometimes even multitasking. Without an audience, during the rehearsals, it just doesn't come to this.

By the way, from the pages of Project Renaissance, you should find your way to some skripts from Rick Ashby. These skripts claim to help you to become a better Imagestreamer, they even help you to create an inner listener which can be used as a replacement for the tape recorder. I didn't try this, I just don't have the equipment to tape these skripts in a satisfying quality.

Keep on Imagestreaming, seems like a great technique.

Regards,

Jens






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It is important to speak aloud and have an external focus whem image streaming whether it is a partner, you on a recorder, or an imaginary person in front of you.

Maybe Paul will jump on with more insights. He and Win are working on The Genius Code, in which image streaming is thoroughly covered.






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Yes, the single MOST important feature of the Image Streaming process is the verbalization of sensory images that occur when you close your eyes.

Verbal thinking from the word-box of our left temporal lobe represents 2 percent of the brain activity. Off-line regions of the brain that account for much of our genius potential are brought on-line and into consciousness when we speak aloud any sensory image communication that we become aware of, even marginally. Speaking reinforces the connections and causes more of the subtle functions within our body/mind (vast experiential intelligence) to be accessible.

You can speak aloud to a live listening partner, to a tape recorder, or to an imagined listener. Speaking silently to yourself will not produce the effect.






#19413 02/06/01 04:53 AM
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When you say feedback do you mean you have to play back the tape?
In Wen's article he says finding the meaning of your images is unimportant if you just want the intelligence gain.






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There are two feedback loops which can be used with ImageStreaming (IS): the short and the long. The short is essential for the power of IS, the long can improve the quality of your IS.

Short Feedback Loop:
You speak out loud what you perceive with your inner senses and hear it. This is the short feedback loop and it brings about the benefits of IS.

Long Feedback Loop:
If you record your Imagestream (something you should do if you're ISing alone), you can play it back, listening for how you did imagestream: Did you use all your senses? How fast did you describe? Was it more abstract or more sensory detail? Listen to your tape once consciously, noticing how you did it. Then play it back a second time. This time, you can do anything you like, it's more for your inner mind to work on the how, according to the things you noticed consciously.

But you will notice results, whether you listen to your imagestream again, or not.

Jens







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