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Evan,

I've run the gamut of 'smart' herbs and nutrients, though I have never tried any of these smart drugs before. Actually, I just found out about them last month, and have been pouring through mounds of info on them since.

I'm concerned about their legality and procurement. Americans can order them directly from a pharmaceuticals company in the channel islands which is above international law or something like that. www.antiaging-systems.com is the source.

The package is unmarked with no return address (and marked 'gift' I believe) in the event that it is opened by customs. If you've ordered a prescription drug that you didn't have a prescription for, they'll just confiscate it... if you've ordered more than a 3-month supply (ie for resale), THEN you may get into some actual trouble.

Apparently, the rest of the world is gobbling this stuff up while americans remains stupid. Fortunately, the Homosexual Lobby (god knows why.. !) persuaded president Clinton to allow the citizenry to order the staple smart drug, Piracetam, in 3-month supplies and for personal use WITHOUT a prescription.

Piracetam is known as one of the safest prescription drugs in existence. _Upshift_ describes it as toxic as tylenol. The choline not only compounds its effects, (because it is the fuel that piracetam runs on) but also virtually negates any of the minor stresses it might put on your system.

The exciting bit is not the piracetam alone, or pira + chol, or pira + chol + oxy... but actually mixing smart drugs that synergize. For instance, hydergine magnifies the effect of piracetam by around 5 times. (piracetam enhances the connection between left and right brain hemispheres...which is the key ingredient in spontaneous activation, no? Pete, have you heard about smart drugs and their relationship to photoreading?) From what I've seen/heard of Win Wenger...I'd bet he's wigged-out on the stuff 24/7. mmm, yeah... gimmee a hit of dat Einstein Factor... yeeeeah......) Perhaps that's how Tony Robbins has leapt from washing his dishes in the bathtub, with no college education to the world's foremost expert on self-improvement? I'm just speculating. Maybe Bush could use them. Seriously. How much better the world would be if our members of Congress each took genius pills.

Homozone? Yeah... I was just having fun... you know how creative I am... well, I wanted to involve my entire being in one grand whole-mind/whole-body creative activity... homozone is a barrel of laughs.. lots of colorful conversations have resulted from its usage lol... you never know what may come out of the darkside....of the moon.. hehehe.. Instant art...heheh..Buy it for the comic relief alone!!! (but make sure to take it with lemon juice to counter the influx of free radicals) sorry.. it 'cracks' me up whenever I think of it.

stay cool
Brian 6-4-9

damn... I wish I could use "6-4-9" as a lucky trifecta... but alas there's no team 9






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Hey brian, you wont get your piracetem seized by customs unless you by a bulk order...trust me, i know. They are not worried about piracetem, they are worried about other drugs ie steroids, cocaine, etc etc. I have even had packages opened before and they just re-seal them up and send em to ya. Only rarely do they keep them.






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In the first post, Ryan was saying that he thought he was on the path to developing a photographic memory. If everyone has that capacity, maybe there's a way to access it, learn it.

Maybe there's some drug somewhere that can heighten your brain's performance enough to allow you to use that Potential Power Performance.

Maybe PRing can help stimulate it?

I don't think there's a doubt in anyone's mind that learning to use a Photographic memory would be God's gift to mankind.

Just some food for thought. Maybe someone knows something I don't...






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I am only taking choline so far...Never take more than 3 g a day (and never start with 3 g).

Nick, why should we take no more than 3 grams a day?

dangers?

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Optimal brain performance through nutrition, why not? I've been taking supplements for awhile, but didn't have the time to go through and calculate optimal doses and synergistic combinations. Then I got Brain Lightning through Centerpointe - now the only other supplements I take during exams are Gotu Kola and Cat's Claw. The url for Brain Lightning if you're interested is http://www.futuredynamicadvantage.com






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>Nick, why should we take no more than 3 >grams a day? dangers?

Thats a common advice for those who want to
avoid any kind of negative side effects. YMMMV. I can't give you a scientific explanation why, only anecdotic evidence from myself and a number of others. Many people reported side effects if they exceed 3 g a day, I had that problem too, it's a strange feeling; choline increases your memory, focus and concentration, so above 3 g a day it feels like 'too much concentration', I just can't relax and daydream for example, feels like I have an important test tomorrow and am realy focused and concentrated on studying right now. Like I said it's hard to describe the feeling, but I am not the only one who had that effect. I would advise anybody who is interested in smart drugs to go to the smart drug usented and egroup forums to obtain a feedback from people who have been studying the subject and actually taking the pills.

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it's a strange feeling; choline increases your memory, focus and concentration, so above 3 g a day it feels like 'too much concentration', I just can't relax and daydream for example, feels like I have an important test tomorrow and am realy focused and concentrated on studying right now.

So THAT'S WHY!!!! I started taking two tablespoons of Lecithin about a month ago, which contains 3250 grams of choline (among other goodies). That's exactly how I'd describe it too. Lately I've been feeling like I want to go.. DO THINGS. I start to develop an aversion to thinking and dallying and even meditation. It's like turning up the heat in an ant colony. They start moving much more faster and efficiently. This is probably not very good if you want to maintain a meditative state of mind... though if ACTION is what you seek..

I'm lucky I have my binaural beats, else I'd never be able to quiet down!

(I'm also an avid reader of the smart drug forums as you are...they don't seem to talk about 'down-to-earth' stuff at the yahoo group though)

This has been VERY helpful information.
THANK YOU.






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Tim_with_a_T, if you are still around, seek out Granulated Lecithin. Take as many tablespoons as you can stomach. (At least two. Perhaps 2-4.) That should help cure you of the disease of dalliance. The effect is quite noticable.

...I feel like I'm sending a psychic message to you. lol






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I've been taking 8 pills of Lifepak it's spelled Lifepak. anyway it's improved my life heaps. I've managed to get into UNIVERSITY and joined a GYMNASTIC club. already doing flips as if I've done it all my life.. which i haven't. anyway... sometimes I feel like I'm cheating. do you ever feel like you're cheating?






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Sorry,
I'm not ggod enough to have PR all the responses here, but I am not into the meditation or herbal remedies of any kind for memory or reading.

But I once bought a course on photgraphic memory and it really worked. You have to prctice it or it will fail you. Basically you care a place like your house - a room or even the inside of your care. memorize every piece of furniture and use that as a place to mentally place things as you try to memorize them Always be vivid. remeber how things smell look, taste - whatever. Now every time you need to remember a list put that thing on one of your memory hooks. place them in order in your mind. that's it.

It works for me.






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