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#22219 07/24/01 03:56 PM
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Blk,

Let's look at this from a different perspective for a second. I remember seeing a post by Paul in which he states he PhotoRead approx. over 1500 books the first year he started doing this. Quick math would indicate that this is 4-5 books each day on average for the WHOLE YEAR. See?

We all know Paul is the best, and in our mind's eye when we watch or hear about him on the infomercial we all picture ourselves being at or close to his level someday, preferably sooner than later . So with that in mind, I don't think it has to be a hard and fast rule to read 5 each day, or 10 each week. Devote as much time as you feel, intuitively, is helping you advance your skills. Elmo has said he has PhotoRead 100 books in a day, and we all know how confident he is in his progress so far! If you enjoy doing 10 books in a day, then do it. If you lose focus and energy after 3 or 4 books, then I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. On the whole, they seem to be telling us that MORE PRACTICE is BETTER if we want TO ADVANCE ASAP. But don't pressure yourself

Unless one of the teachers or experts wants to step in here and contribute, that's the best way I can express what I've gathered from the posts I've read thus far. By the way Blk your posts have been very helpful to me as well!

-Bran






#22220 07/24/01 04:08 PM
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Hi BlkWolf,

Thanks for your accolade. I apologize for not responding earlier. The quote I used from Pete was posted on this forum in the following archive link: http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Archives/Archive-000003/HTML/20001203-8-000020.html
Concerning what Dana is suggesting... it's slightly different, but still the same result is achieved.
Remember to feel free to experiment with either method, perhaps even create your own... and don't forget to "play with it" These are only suggestions; however the beauty of this program is that you can try different things, and customize each step to your own style of learning. Flexibility and ease of use are words that come to mind; and THAT my friend is awesome.

Alex






#22221 07/24/01 04:15 PM
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Yo bro,

Thx Bran. I think you are on target with this one.

What I am ultimately trying to understand is the developmental process involved here. If PR 5-10 books a day will help improve the development of that process within myself, I am one to do what it takes. I however know that to much exercise can defeat the purpose which it was intended. I am going to stay on course at this point.

I will let you in on something I have noticed. As you know I am PR a J2EE library. (7 books). I took the weekend off from PR. When I returned to it Monday, the PR process on material had a good feel. I have not activated any of these books but I feel a failure understanding about the text.

I will let you know how this goes.

Thx again Bran. I am a firm believer that "We will always understand more then I".

BlkWolf






#22222 07/24/01 04:18 PM
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The truth is, you automatically begin drawing on the knowledge you absorb from the PhotoReading step alone, even if you do not have a chance to go back and manually activate.

So, we say "PhotoRead everything you get your hands on," even if you only have time to do the PhotoReading step only. The more often you PhotoRead, the quicker you'll develop/cultivate those new neuro-pathways for better speed, comprehension, and retention.

Go with the plan that works for you.






#22223 07/24/01 04:37 PM
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I just have to say one more thing about something that bothers me a bit about a couple posts here on the board.

I see people saying things like "Don't ever expect to be as fast as Paul" or "Only 3 times as fast as you could normally read is what is promised, and that is what you should expect".

I have seen that you, Blk, don't have the problem with believing in yourself that some people here have, but I'm reminded of a story someone told me.

Roger Banister was the first man to ever break the 4-minute mile. Going back hundreds of years nobody had ever touched this mark before. People ran the mile professionally, practicing as hard as they could, running the race every day, but nobody could run it in 4-minutes. It was thought of as "impossible".

The difference with Roger was that he BELIEVED he could do it. And after he ran the mile in under 4 minutes, THIRTY-THREE other people did it in the next 30 days, and OVER THREE-HUNDRED people did it in the next year. We all know evolution doesn't work THAT fast, those people didn't magically become faster in the next 30 days. All those people were capable of doing it the year before, but their belief system held them back. It took Roger doing it for their minds to click and say "Hey! I can do this too!" Not to sound like the little engine that could, but if you don't THINK you CAN, then you NEVER will.

A lot of people here do have the right mindset about learning, that the BELIEF is more important than many of the individual processes alone. But just to the others, that think Paul is a god or that they will never even get close to him, just think of him as Roger Banister. Whatever you think you deserve, your other than concious mind will work 24 hours/day to find a way to give to you. If you don't believe you will ever be faster than 3 times your normal speed, then you certainly won't be.

So set your goal as high as you want to go, and your other than concious mind will take you there as fast as it knows how. Just believe.

It may take years of practice, just like it did for Paul, don't expect it to happen overnight by any means. But he has laid it all out for us, where he had to go through the process without a map!

HE GAVE US HIS MAP! Thanks Paul!

I'm sorry if this post didn't help anyone with the process itself, I just thought some people could use a little inspiration and that story really resonated deep within me.

Over and out,
Brandon






#22224 07/25/01 05:20 AM
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Hey Brandon,
Your last post reminded me of a saying that I think of every once in a while and that you might find interesting; "If you think you can or think you can't you're, probably right!"

The three times faster mark is just the start for me. I expect to become much faster and competent in time with practice and effort.

Good luck and stick with it.






#22225 07/24/01 08:50 PM
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Exactly! "Three times faster" is the minimum starting point.

If you have a book that would require 10 hours for you to comprehend with regular reading, a beginning PhotoReader would spend 3 hours or less, and after a few activation passes the whole book "gels" and you have full comprehension.






#22226 07/24/01 08:55 PM
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And, the more you use it, the more proficient you become.

So, work the system and post your experiences here! We want to hear your questions, challenges, and "ah-ha" experiences along the way.






#22227 07/24/01 10:15 PM
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Wow, what a great discussion.
I am now at a point in PR it seems that after PR a book or an article and during the activation phase, I try not to subvocalize and still comprehend what is going on in the book or magazine-- (which is hard for me not to do) when I look down the center of the page. I am gettting the feeling that it is about to break-through and all I have to do is look at the words as I go down the page and I will understand them but its not happening yet. Has anyone successful at PR ever had this feeling or situation? How long did it take to overcome or work through.

Almost there....






#22228 07/25/01 07:52 PM
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I know what you mean kmg..

How are you practicing resisting the urge to subvocalize? I am having trouble with this as well.

Are you incorporating the other activation techniques, besides just superreading and dipping? (mind maps, skittering, etc.)

I find skittering to work even better than superreading at times.

Also make sure you have a clear purpose and good mind probing questions, and your mind will help you find the meaning of the words you're speaking of. I forget to do this sometimes






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