Dana, could you share the mechanics of the interaction that these people have used. I'm trying this and would appreciate any ideas I can try.

Is it important that you not allow incubation?

Is it only important that you haven't done manual activation?

How about a text book. Many have questions at the end of chapters, and some solutions in the back. I'm considering this a method to get instantaneous / spontaneous activation.

Thanks,

Iam2