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I am having a little comprehension when I skitter, but not much. Also I have trouble keeping my concentration on the book, and about halfway through the chapter, I begin to not have comprehension. It also takes a lot of time. I could regular read it in the same amount of time and get better comprehension. I dont know what I am doing wrong. I read the first sentence of the paragraph then zig-zag my eyes down it. Then I read the last paragraph. I only conclude with a memory of the first and last sentences, but, since I dont recall any of the body of the paragraph, information is missing, and I dont understand the top and bottom sentences as a result.

Did anyone else have these problems and then all of a sudden have the system work?

Can anyone give me an answer to my questions?






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The Activation step in itself takes well over a third of the time I would usually spend regular reading it, and I get very little comprehension. I thought everyone said that 1/3 the time was the max time it would take for even a beginner to PR it.






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YES, I had alot of problems in the beginning but now things are comming together. What I at first called a "failure" I'm starting to see as what's supposed to happen. After a 20 min session I have a general idea of the main points of the book and from there rapid reading what I want may take another half hour and I'm done. Before I would have slow read it for 4 or so hours and read tons of stuff I didn't need to. SOME books you can't do that with (like Vernon Howard books) if the author is not wasting your time with fluff. I think it's really true when they say less than 10% of a book has all the MEAT in it and the rest of the 90% is motivational garbage and moronic stories. I PR'd a book on mind power and half of it was on vitamins! Duh. I got the main points out of it in about 15 minutes. Maybe they should call it "PhotoScreening" because you separate the good from the bad right away. I PR'd 10 books in the book store today looking for one to buy but found nothing that interested me. I used to buy what looked good, read them and let them sit on the shelf forever. This course is going to pay for itself pretty soon.






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hey guys...
when I read the last post i thought he said "photoscreaming" rather than "photoscreening"! anyway I've read a lot of the other books that are offered by this company and a lot of them suggest music in all learning situations and most if not all, say that it's the subconscious that helps you solve questions. I must say I'm beginning to see the connection between the sub and the conscious. even if the connection is somewhat vague, it is important to involve both hemispheres so there fore your left brain will do the PR and the right brain might listen to the music. I think the problem is that when you're PRing you tend to do your very best to follow every step of the PR system without really playing with it, therefore only activating the left side of your brain. you have to be either playful or have a bit of music or sereneness in the room in which you PR, something for your conscious to do. I think that's why Paul said a lot of things about chanting or keeping to a rhythm.

anyway.. that's my bit for now.
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I have some of those superlearning tapes with the 60 beats per minute music on it and I think it's a little distracting. I think it's just me though. I prefere having a fan going because that's more relaxing to me. On the last tape of the course he said something along the lines of everyone is going to prefere something different.

During Photoscreaming I think you have to listen to Slayer or old Metallica. ;-)






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Gregory,

You mentioned above that "PRing works for me". I was wondering if you could give a little more info.

how is it working for you? How much of the books that you read are you able to recall? How long did it take you to get to the point where you feel like this PR is actually working for you.

I think most of us aren't complaining that it will take time to learn, but what I would to know is the gap between howmuch practicing one puts in to the point where they feel like are at the point where they a really PR.







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What an endorsement!

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Originally posted by Gregory:
I don't have anywhere near a photographic memory (my grades in school would attest to that fact) and PRing works for me. Stick with the system and keep playing with it.

Good luck,
Gregory









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chaosadelt,

Ezra,
You asked: "You mentioned above that "PRing works for me". I was wondering if you could give a little more info. How is it working for you?"

It's working great. The first experience I had of a book gelling was this last spring, "Tuesdays With Morrey". It was an amazing experience. To understand what I wanted from a book in roughly 45 minutes when it would've taken me around 10 hours to regular read the thing (I "normal read" at about 160-190 words per minute and frequently get lost in the details) using the 5 day plan.

The next experience I had was with a highly detailed and technical medical text book that would've taken me over 1 month to regular read and understand (if I got through it). I PRed it it 7 days and had all the understanding I needed out of it. Since then I have only needed to refer back to the mindmap twice to double check some information and make sure that I remembered correctly (I did). I am now in the process of applying syntopic reading to 5 highly detailed and complex medical text books. I started this project last week and had to redefine my purpose because it was WAY too broad. Yesterday I narrowed my purpose, reselected the texts, PR the two that I hadn't previously PR in the morning, dropped two books that wouldn't serve my narrowed purpose, and started activation in the afternoon. I will be continuing today.

"How much of the books that you read are you able to recall?"

I recall all the information that I was looking for as stated in my purpose for reading the material. I have also found that I remember all of the information that I deem neccessary in support of that purpose if I didn't already have that information available to my conscious mind. The PR system is awesome.

"How long did it take you to get to the point where you feel like this PR is actually working for you."

Within one week of learning the system I had my first experience of a book gelling. It took me a long time (trying on and mostly off for a few years) to learn the system because I had preconceived and incorrect notions of what I should be able to do with the system (e.g. instant recall after PRing alone, instant recall of 100% of the book, no manual activation neccessary, pages sticking together during the PR step matters). When I didn't see those results I would get frustrated and conclude that the system wasn't working and put the system on the shelf for another day. I also had problems with developing mind probing questions and pulling out trigger words. I haven't yet fully integrated PR into my life. In time that will happen as I am using it more and more. I will never regular read another text book as long as I live.

My confidence with the system is growing and I can already see that my efficiency with the system is getting better by my experiences with my recent efforts in syntopic reading.

There are a few things that really helped me to learn the system: 1.) I opened my mind and simply followed the steps outlined in the course and book (I played with the system), 2.) I got rid of my preconceived notions of what was supposed to happen and simply noticed what was happening and built on my successes, 3.) I stopped questioning how the system works and accepted that it does, 4.) I removed the pressure I put on myself to perfom and learn material at unreasonable rates for a beginner (one shouldn't expect a hole-in-one thier first time on the golf course or they are going to give up because they can't golf). This DF also helped me tremendously in learning to PR (and, of course, this DF and PRing itself wouldn't be available without LSC). A BIG THANKS to all at LSC.

I think that the problem most people are having with the system is that they have placed unreasonable expectations on themselves and the results they expect with the course as beginners. You shouldn't expect to be able to read like Paul, Pete, or Dana your first time through the course. You should expect to get through any book in 1/3 the time or less when you PR and activate it. This expectation includes the first book you "read" using the PR system. Keep working with the system and you will learn it. If you get frustrated either ask questions and work through the problem or put it up for a while, give it a rest, then come back to it again and work on it then. You might remember that EVERYTHING is best learned in layers. PR is no exception. I am still learning the finer points of the system and will be for a while yet. Actually, I am still learning the most efficient way in which I process written information using the PRing Whole Mind System.

If that didn't answer your question then ask again. I hope it helped someone out there.

Gregory






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Sometimes when I am reading a book, I am not looking for any certain information (i.e. an assignment to read in the history book). What do I do about the purpose to get good results?






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Make your purpose to pick out the significant points that you don't already know. This was my problem from the beginning. I read to get new information so I have to make multiple passes with different purposes. The first purpose would be "I'm reading [XYZ] for the purpose of finding the main points" or whatever and then the second would be "What is new here that I don't know yet? What have I never seen before that MAY be what I'm looking for?" Trust me when I tell you this works.

Here's proof. I've affirmed this purpose so much that when I did the dictionary game I envisioned a word that wasn't even in there- "TREE" isn't in that dictionary. I'm so used to looking for what I don't already know that I'm noticing things the authors left out themselves. Even though that wasn't my specific purpose "to find words that should be there but aren't" I'm so used to looking for what I don't already know that maybe I'm immediately drawn to loopholes in the books themselves. Now that may not sound significant to you but I think it's an example of spillover- where what you do in one book helps you in others. Why I envisioned "tree" only to find it not in there is beyond me.

In reading Psychological or Spiritual books I use the additional purpose of "What do I already know but AM NOT DOING?" And sure enough I quickly find exactly that. Then I go on to "What do I NOT know but NEED?" Maybe this is called Mind Probing what I'm doing here but you can state them as purposes (statements) in the beginning and then later as questions.






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