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#23066 08/27/01 08:45 AM
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After researching through so many strange concepts during summer, I have finally come back to this forum to see what's been going on.

Now, as most posts will say - You CANNOT expect to have an 80-100% comprehension rate, after PhotoReading.

If this is absolutely true, why the hell would somebody even bother to use the system when they need to study for their college exams? If it's not even 80%, you'd likely get a 'C' or below.

How would you be able to get 90% for technical materials?

What are realistic expectations?

What would it take to acheive statistics near Pete's level? As in, being able to just PhotoRead and immediately processing the information into his conscious?

I mean, in all these infomercials - the only thing I saw Pete do during the computer-testing was overview the first paragraph, and do the photoreading step right through.

Hm, one real huge question I want to ask - Do any of you have ANY SOLID success experiences? How long did it take you before these even occured? I usually only see people with major troubles, post here.

I'm still a skeptic because I haven't had enough money to dish out on any things yet - NLP, DHE, NHR, etc.

I like to proceed with caution...

Thanks.







#23067 08/29/01 04:00 PM
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There is a difference between reading and studying. If a person can read a book and then get 80% comprehension on a test, then 80% comprehension is very realistic for someone who uses the full PhotoReading system. If that person needs to study to get 80% comprehension, then PhotoReading and studying is in order.

We've talked about Pete's demonstrations in other posts.

Can you give an example of the types of books you are working with right now, and also explain how you are doing all 5 steps of PhotoReading?

You can count on cutting your study time down to a third or less and achieve better comprehension and retention as a beginner.







#23068 08/29/01 07:25 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by AssemblerCT:
Now, as most posts will say - You CANNOT expect to have an 80-100% comprehension rate, after PhotoReading.

If this is absolutely true, why the hell would somebody even bother to use the system when they need to study for their college exams? If it's not even 80%, you'd likely get a 'C' or below.


IMO it's ambiguous to convert the comprehension level you get from PR into a grade for an exam. You may get 70% comprehension by PRing the course materials, but remember that only 4-11% of the text you read in a book is relevant or important (PR Book, pg 65). Therefore it is highly likely that you will absorb the majority of what you need to learn anyway. What you get out of a book depends on what you're looking to get out of it.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but if you need to revise a whole course for an exam, the bits you don't quite understand or know about will effectively stand out while attempting to activate the information. You would then make a note of what you don't understand and go over it again until you do know it.

This is kind of like a "blind leading the blind" situation here, as I've yet to have any success with the system. I've got the book, but I really haven't had any time at all to attempt to apply the principles. I've ordered the course which should hopefully be with me in a few days (with any luck!), and I fully intend to get down to it within the next month - even to the point of taking a week off work to give myself time.






#23069 08/30/01 04:04 AM
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I took 3 days off to do the course and that was a MISTAKE because I blasted thru it in one day and basically was so fried I just horsed around for 2 days. Letting info incubate while you do other things is a must.


Taking a few hours and PRing to get to the point of 70% comprehension is GREAT, I don't see what the problem is with that. You can probably do it all during class while the other students are asking moronic questions. PRing a whole 800+ page text would take under 15 minutes. You can superead, dip, rapid read and mind map during the class and you would not have to study at all! My hardest class in terms of grasping the info was Philosophy. We had to read for hours and be able to spew out "know thyself" and stuff like that. 99% of what we read was not on the tests but we all slow read it for nothing. Like I said, I wish I had this when I was in college.

The #1 BIG problem (not really a problem but...) with the course is the fact that they have you PRing 2 good books that are worth slow reading- The Photoreading book and Natural Brilliance. Almost everything in these books is cool. The "4-11%" relevant information is true for MOST books and for almost all text books but not everything. I was relieved to see that pleasure reading isn't abandoned. I'm not going to PR MAD Mag but I'll definately PR something like Muscle Media Magazine. You are not supposed to throw away slow reading but are supposed to do it as a last step. Rapid Reading can get pretty slow when you finally find what you really want to know as a result of doing all the other steps and when you do it you've already got it reviewed several times. I'm looking into topics I never thought I'd ever have time for because of this. Instead of reading one book a month I'm previewing and PRing 10 and reading 1 every 2 days. My biggest problem in starting this was I was in the habit of reading whole books for 1 or 2 ideas and I thought I would miss them if I PR'd them but what I'm finding out is if I blast thru 10 books to find 1 of them with alot of info in them I could use, the trade off (in terms of TIME and what you get out of it) is definately worth it.

[This message has been edited by Andy030 (edited August 29, 2001).]






#23070 08/30/01 08:23 AM
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In reply/reference to Dana:

My interpretation of reading and studying is, in essence, equivalent to one another.

This is basically due to the fact that I never read any piece of information more than twice, and can usually both understand and retain about 90% of it - when tested.

So, from what I gather of your post - if I can "regular read" a book and usually get around 90% of it, I'll likely have the same results PhotoReading?

Hm, doubt it - but, you should know.

One of my main concerns, regarding 1/3 of the time to process information is - If you have to go through the whole means of activation and layering, with *technical books,* 1/3 of the time seems quite impossible.

With technical books, I don't want to know particular content in the book - I'd like to know the *whole book* inside-out.

How do other "Accelerated Learning" (NLP/DHE) Courses compare to PhotoReading?






#23071 08/30/01 03:39 PM
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If your memory is that good already then what's going to happen to you is you're going to do all the steps (prep, PR, activate, etc) but only have to rapid read once.






#23072 08/30/01 03:51 PM
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Assembler,

Thanks for your response.

To know where you are coming from, are you new to PhotoReading, or have you already learned how to do the whole process? If yes, how many books have you worked the 5-step process on?






#23073 08/31/01 01:34 AM
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I'm fairly new to the idea...

But, if all proves doable, I'll probably buy the course within a week or two.

Fall '01 Semester is already starting, so I need to get moving.






#23074 08/31/01 06:24 AM
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The question still remains: "What does Pete do to answer questions about the text he just read in the Demo?"

He doesn't seem to be rapid reading or activating or any of that. He just flips through the pages or scrolls down real fast and then within a minute he can answer very detailed questions about the material. That's what I wanna be able to do.

Is that another level of photoreading?







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