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The reason why i am interested in photoreading is so i can read faster, alot faster. However, i have learned that after you Photoread a book, you would have to activate it to recieve your informations. But when recieving informations during activation, you need to ask questions so the brain can "look" for the answers during activation. Well, during super reading and dipping how would you know which questions to ask, and how many details in the book would you missed? Every book has many many details about plots, characters, settings and other IMPORTANT informations. Well, during activation, what chances are there that you would recieve this Much information?

ONE more thing. If 10 hours is the time for me to regular read a book from words to words, and photoreading takes me only a couple of minutes, how many activations would i need to recieve a lot informations from the novel. When doing all the 5 photoreading steps like prepare, preview, photoread, activate, and somehting else i forgot, how long would it take me to complete all of these tasks and ALSO get as much comprehension as the regular reading technique that would take me 10 hours to read.






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you are absolutely right eagerchild, i feel the same way about the system. When i saw it on tv, it seemed so amazing and it fooled me so I bought it. And now i feel very disappointed in it and plus the company gave out my credit card number to other companies and now they are sending me useless crap. I am having a very hard time fixing my mistake of calling the photoreading people.






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You need to get in touch w/ LS. Ask to speak to Dana Hanson.

Anyone who feels "fooled" by this system probably expected it to work like magic. I'm beginning to think that commercial is really misleading people. I've never seen it though.

It takes time to learn, practice, master & enjoy the benefits of PhRing. Anyone who expects to just do it all in a couple months is not being realistic.

I've been PhRing for 5 yrs. now & it's the most powerful tool i've ever learned. Recently, w/ all the news after 9/11, i've been blasting thru the NYTimes & other papers. Had i not learned PhRing & how to apply it, i'd have never been able to assimilate as much info as i presently have.

I really think people should think: Ok, 1 yr. from now, i'm going to be really good at this. 2 yrs. from now, i'm going to be terrific. And, guess what, if it happens sooner, then fine. Nothing will happen w/o serious practice and doing it in layers.

YOu're just not going to go thru the tapes & presto, you are PhRing. It won't happen. It just can't happen. It's not a PhRing pill you are taking

It's a system & a technique. Gotta learn it & then master it & finally, get to the point where it's like second nature. You just can't go from the crib to running down the street.






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Eagerchild has a HUGE point on this, that I have been trying to spread into the minds of such brainwashed people.

When I had asked a question about activating technical information, I received a response that it would take me 90 30-minute activation sessions to get comprehension (and that's not even full)!

If you know how to calculate, you can see that (90 x 30)/60 = 45 Hours.

This is definitely not 3x faster!!!
I'd rather "regular read" and get it done in 5 hours or less with FULL Comprehension & Retention.

BTW: Even if it wasn't 90, 30-minute activation sessions per section per chapter would still be equivalent or slower than my normal rate now.

Sacrificing my rate of a normal-90%+ retention rate, would kill me in the future if this system failed to work and distorted my primary reading process.

If you want something for studies, try out a good speed reading program. Exams require on-spot information recall, not "activation" and "incubation."


If this may seem intensely offensive, I'm sorry - but it's pure mathematics.


P.S. Margaret - It is possible to master something, very early on in life (if you have the motivation/determination).

For example, take Accelerated Learning.
I killed off a year of high school through acceleration, and now I'm trying to kill off two years of college. Result =? An MD at 22 probably, compared to the normal age of 26.








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Someone has DEFINATELY mislead you. THere is NO WAY it's 90 sessions. I don't even think it would be 10. I'd be pushing to say that 5 may be unneccesary.

A book that takes you 10 hours should take you about 3 and a half hours. That's an improvement.

I will definately admit that infomercial is a misleading. But I AM getting through information 3 times faster than I used to, with as much if not better comprehension than I used to. It's only been a couple weeks, too.

Another thing: FULL COMPREHENSION IS IMPOSSIBLE. 100% comprehension is photographic, so unless you can answer what the 9,002nd word is in the book, you don't have that. You can achieve better comprehension with PR because you go through the book several times, as opposed to normal reading.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com






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Hello Everyone,

I'm kind of new to all of this. I haven't even gotten the course that I ordered yet. But I wanted to put all of this information into context. How many pages are these books you are reading? I got this program so I could read faster. I was amazed at the speed compared to my 20 pages per hour reading speed. I guess I want to also ask if this will improve upon my slow reading abilities. Thank you for your help.






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The PR course (from what I've done of it so far) can increase your regular reading skills by getting you into the right frame of mind for reading. One of the early tapes in the system incorporates Scheele's "Double your reading speed in 10 minutes" tape, which really does work. I'm not a particularly fast reader myself. At the start of the tape, I was reading 10 lines of the page in 20 seconds. Halfway through the tape (about 5 minutes), I was reading 15 lines in 20 seconds. At the end of the tape, I read 22 lines in 20 seconds. So the claim of doubling your reading speed works.

So, basically, what I'm trying to say is that if you consciously use the relaxation methods, etc... as discussed on the tape, your reading speed WILL increase. However, if your goal is just to increase your reading speed, the Photoreading system is a bit of overkill, and a tad expensive!






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You will be about three times faster, hopefully. Don't expect to be able to do what Pete Bisonette did on the infomercial, where he read a work of Dicken's in like, 5 minutes. That takes many years of practice, and getting to that level at all is questionable.

Expect to go through material three times faster...in fact, if you don't you can return it for a refund.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com






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First thank you for all of your help. I know if speeding up was my only goal PR is truly overkill. I have always wanted to learn more, but what kept me from doing that was the amount of time spent reading which I don't have. True from what I have heard about PR I won't consciously know it, but all that information will be somewhere in my head. So when the time comes to use it I believe it will surface. Thanks again.






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Mai,

You WILL conciously know it, after you activate the material...all of this is explained in the course that should arrive at your house eventually...don't worry, it's a big help =).

-Ramon






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