Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ PhotoReading, Memory Optimizer The speed thresh-hold of one's subconcious....

Ok, so theoretically the subconcious mind can deal with a vast amount more information than the concious mind can, correct?

Well, assuming that is true, does anyone know of an aproximate threshold of spoken english WPM that the concious mind is able to handle?

Regular speech suppoedly takes up about half of one's available concious attention, yet I've seen debaters speeking at least three times average speeking speed (assuming typical speech is about 300 wpm... if you don't think a person can continually speak 900 words per minute, or listen to that, go watch a fast high school varsity debater in a state where speed isn't frowned upon, and you'll be in for a surprise).

So is there supposedly some point at which a person is completly incapable of speaking faster, as they can not conciously process words fast enough to think of them AND speak them? What about listening, is there some point at which anything faster is impossible to listen to?

Well, let's pretend there is for a moment. I believe that multiple voices (differant voices, that is) speaking simultaneously can still be comprehended by the subconcious. Well, it's been demonstrated that average people can listen effectivly at up to at least 900 wpm conciously. So even stacking a few voices together, and perhaps raising the rate of speech a few fold, could get to the point of, oh, three voices, 3000 wpm, so about 9000 wpm of english, but heard, not seen.

Has anyone tried erm... photolistening? (photo... that's absurd, can anyone think of a better name?) It would certainly pose several problems, but I think it would be much, much easier for people to let it sink directly into their subconcious if they did't even have to be reading material to have thousands and thousands of words flooding their mind.

Any thoughts of response would be appreciated on this subject.

PS I apologize to anyone who had difficulty reading my long and absurdly complex (in a gramatical sense) sentences, particularly the one which used nine verbs.... I don't intend to write so poorly, it's just a side affect of my desire to say eight things simultaneously.

I like the idea of photolistening, but first:

Debate teams can talk fast (I was on one) but not at 900 wpm...for reference, in 1988 the world record was set by John Moschitta (the micromachine guy) at 586 wpm. Even if the record was beaten since then, I don't think the average highschool debater regularly beats that.

But, thats beside the point. I'm not sure if the subconscious mind can sort out layered audio, but it might. I'm curious if any of the guys doing NLP research on those paraliminal tapes (they have two voices at the same time, one in each ear) know if the subconscious sorts out each one...but on the tapes there's only *some* overlap...they're not directly on top of one another. They're closing the computer lab, so if I can, I'll research it when I get home.

I'm really interested because then (tee hee hee) we could have audio books that play what was once two sides of a tape on one side, while in an Alpha state, cutting audiobook time in half (even more if they speak faster and layer more than two tracks of vocals).

I'm not big on audio books, and we really couldn't *activate* the tapes, but if one mastered the spontaneous activation of "photolistening" I'm sure we'd have some interesting results.

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