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They lied. It is new age and it is occultic. Don't believe me? Read pages 45, 100, and 102 of the photoreading book. The answer to the frequently asked questions is a lie. 45 talks about what "soft eyes" really is. 102 says to "Photoread relevent books on autogenic training, self-hypnosis, guided fantasy, Silva methods, meditation, and contemplative prayer. Remember, you do not have to activate every book in order for the concepts to benefit your life. Explore meditation. You will discover countless varieties including, Yoga and Zen. Many reputable teachers and centers throughout the world teach courses in meditation. Use Qigong, the Chinise system of focused concentration and breathing." (Qigong is bad too)

You now know the truth. What you choose to do with that knowledge is up to you. If you are a Christian, RETURN YOUR PHOTOREADING COURSE BECAUSE IT IS OCCULTIC. If you aren't, consider that there IS a spiritual force behind these things, otherwise they wouldn't work. Think about whether you REALLY want to open yourself up to this kind of crap.






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Do as TruthSpeaker says immediately, or risk the chance that you will become educated. This kind of drivel never ceases to amaze me.


PS - When do I get my robe and Handbook of Secret Rites?

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Hey Morpheus,

You haven't stumbled onto the Matrix or anything top secret. Right before you go onto this forum there's info for their Spring Forest Qigong training.

The whole question is if new age is occultic, which apparently you think is true.

What a steaming pile this is. You've just ruined my day.

That's it, I'm joining scientology to fight the forces of Xenu.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com






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What is wrong with you? I'd be willing to bet that around 2/3 of the PRers in the world are Christian. I'M CHRISTIAN. PR is not occultic.

Exploring meditation is not a bad thing. QiGong is not something that cannot be denied, and there is no evil within it. Even if there was, that is NOTHING compared to other forces in the world. If God did not want the human mind and body to have the ability to use its capacity, he would not have made us so limitless. (We do have limits, but compare us to any of the other creatures within this planet.)

The PR books does say to explore Silva methods, but it is not occultic. It's not something that you have to do. And besides: those things have NOTHING to do with PhotoReading. What's wrong with Yoga and Zen?

Oh yeah. This stuff is really evil alright! Man, I think I feel myself being consumed by the devil already! Ahh!

Seriously: even if, by some chance, it was evil. . .why not use evil for good?

I shall fear no evil. God is my guardian.

TruthSpeaker-you don't know what evil is.






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TruthSpeaker,

i trully understand your concern! there are some aspects of PhotoReading that are somewhat new age and eastern religion practice, but someone told me to take what you need and leave the ungodly junk behind.

i personally don't see anything wrong with relaxing ur mind or anything like that but we have to draw a line, as Christians, where it becomes a practice to rely on it rather than God for peace.






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Youngprer,

I really enjoy your postings to this forum, they've given me a lot of encouagement. But (you knew that was coming), I have a couple of issues with your last post. Your view of evil is very cavalier. As a Christian, you should take evil very seriously. There is a recurrent theme in the bible about us and evil. That is for God to keep us from it, not for God to help us defeat it. Psalms 23 does say "I will fear no evil, for you are with me" (NIV) but the following words are "your rod and your staff, they comfort me". That's God giving us the guidence we need to stay away from evil. For example, when I go to the zoo, I don't fear the lions but I'm not going to get in the cage with them. As for using evil for good, evil will chew you up and spit you out before you new what hit you. Only God can turn something meant for evil into something good.

As for the original post, I kinda agree with
1Died4ALL in that I just stay away from the stuff I think can get me in trouble. I once heard a pastor talk about using the tools of the mystic without becoming a mystic. He spoke specifically about using meditation to quiet one's mind from all the distractions we have to improve our prayer life, but care needs to be taken. Satin will try to keep you from God, distractions are one of his favorite methods.

Michael








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quote:
Originally posted by Michaelbe:
Youngprer,

Your view of evil is very cavalier. As a Christian, you should take evil very seriously. There is a recurrent theme in the bible about us and evil. ... That's God giving us the guidence we need to stay away from evil. For example, when I go to the zoo, I don't fear the lions but I'm not going to get in the cage with them. As for using evil for good, evil will chew you up and spit you out before you new what hit you. Only God can turn something meant for evil into something good.


It is true that I may be a little niave, but there are some things, I believe, such as this that humans themselves can turn around. It's our decision to defy what we know is wrong. In this case, we have the free will; the choice to stay away from what we feel is evil.

As for me being cavalier, I know you may get that impression. Believe me, though. I wouldn't get in the cage with the lion either. But, if it broke out of the cage and began chasing me I wouldn't be able to run forever.

As Obi-Wan once said,"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." I truely believe that this would be the case with me, or any Christian. That power is God.

But hey - can we not get too into God-talk here? TruthSpeaker will believe what he/she believes, and there is likely none of us that can change that.








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I suppose all the clergy who spend time in quiet contemplation are doomed to hell, right? And the Quakers who are Christian but meditate during their services are also banished?

Truthseeker(?), your faith and willingness to defend your convictions are admirable. However, do some reading on other religions and you will see striking similarities among them (if you remain open). You may also want to check out some writings on the development of Christian mystics.

If God is all powerful, how can Satan (not Satin) overrun us?






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Just putting this into perspective:

The guy is calling a speedreading program satanic.

He might not let us have photoreading, but by God, there WILL be dancing.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com






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quote:
Originally posted by razordu30:
Just putting this into perspective:

The guy is calling a speedreading program satanic.

He might not let us have photoreading, but by God, there WILL be dancing.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com


lol Yeah. . .Ramon seems to be able to sum things up better than I can.








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