Thanks for your help Michael! It just seems that it is going to be difficult entering a "other-than-conscious" state when I just can't help but listen to his voice consciously. I hope I'm wording this right. It's like I'm just listening to a tape not entering any kind of state... Make sense? I know this seems funny but I forced myself to take a scolding hot shower and see if that would help. But I just ended up falling alseep. Again thank you so much for your help and I will continue to practice!