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So, like I was saying....
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This discussion has gone offtopic from long ago. It's funny to hear about people that say they believe something and also say that "A misconception to one person is a truth to another". I had trouble for long in understanding that concept that's seemingly contradicting. How does many religions be equally valid at once? Once I got an explanation on that, an explanation from a non-contentious pagan, and then I understood why. For pagans, everything is a possibility. There is nothing totally true and nothing totally false because we cannot know for sure what the truth is, so we must accept everyone else's beliefs as a possibility equally valid as our own personal beliefs. What I find extremely funny on this is that those very people fight with teeth and nails when someone confronts their beliefs; a contradiction, most of them believe with their minds that every religion is equally valid and with their hearts they "know" that their religion is the only true one; I have witnessed that. Some others even believe that each new belief almost literally opens a new parallel reality. And in all those stupidities they claim being wise, hilarious!
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Many paths lead to the mountain top. 
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maybe, but heaven isnt a mountain top.
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Hello friends, PRing the Bible is good for everyone regardless of your religious preference for it is the ultimate "self help" book. It contains useable advice for anyone that desires a life of peace and happiness. If I understand the whole PRing proccess correctly, one can first PR the Bible, and then go back and read it conventionally if you so desire. You can consciously get more out of the text by 'rapid reading' and adjusting your speed accordingly, slowing down to fully absord certain passages or teachings that you find important and are in line with your purpose for reading it in the first place.
When you PR, you are downloading the information into your other than conscious mind so that it will present this information to your conscious mind at a later time through some form of activation. It is then that you have the choice to accept it or reject it through the powers of the conscious mind which is responsible for deductive reasoning and so forth. 7th day?
The issue is not what day we should worship God, for the Bible speaks of men worshipping on a continual basis, every day of the week. As for keeping a particular day Holy as the 4th commandment states, I can only assume that God would not give His people a specific day (the 7th) to keep Holy, and then leave them confused as to which day of the week is actually the seventh. PRing is a tool, or method in which one can rapidly acquire information and knowledge on any given subject. As with any other tool in this world, it is not the tool which is responsible for generating good or evil, it is the person using the tool that determines the final output.
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A McDonalds menu contains what's in the bible. The only difference is in your head. "You wanted it, you got it, Toyota" is the same as "Blessed are the meek." The difference is YOU. Not what you are reading. If you look at your keyboard you can see the whole Koran. It's all there. It's just language, it's nothing without you.
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so just because my keyboard contains all the letters needed to explain how to make a time machine that means i know how to make one?(sorry i just watched that movie.. good movie)
7th day- if God didnt care which day we worshipped on then why did he provide manna on every single day for 40 years in the wilderness, double portion on friday, and none on saturday? the manna kept from friday to saturday kept fresh, but if you tried to keep some on any other day, it was spoiled the next morning. God was and is specific. he used the most direct language to tell us to keep sabbath "remember the sabbath day to keep it holy" "the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God" go ahead and keep sunday, and ill keep God's Sabbath. which do you think is the right choice? PLUS the seventh day has never changed. every other cycle, the day, year, month, are all kept by the sun and moon, and the earths rotation, but the weekly cycle is a constant cycle kept since the beginning of time when God created the seven days. it has been kept the same for 6,000 years, and it will never change. i dont think its that hard to find out which day is the seventh... its on my calendar and every other calendar ive ever seen(but thats just america i guess). Saturday is the 7th day, and that means it's the Sabbath.
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Mark P4-- At lest show some repect. Not all Christians are lunatics nor do all Christians bother people. But you, I have found out, are intolerant of other peoples beliefs, especially Christians so much so that you feel it is your duty to offend them and make fun of what they believe. I have known freethinkers before (Athiests, Agnostics, etc.) and some are like you--intolerant but others live and let live. So, every group has lunatics and fanatics. [This message has been edited by jonah (edited August 05, 2002).]
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I have said nothing bad against Christians or even Seventh Day Adventists. I also said I read the Koran. I'm pointing out things that are offensive to some people and that is not disrespectful. If someones full of themselves and I point that out, am I "bad" for that? I was raised Roman Catholic and rebelled my whole life and was punished constantly. Honestly, it was the most fun I've ever had and if I could do it all over again I would put twice as much energy into it. Johan, I'm not going to pussyfoot around someone that's religious. If someone feels the need to tell me their opinion then they're going to get mine in return. Religions were made my men. The bible is the word of men. I refuse to worship MEN. Women, well, ok. I think you get my drift. I don't value "beliefs" anymore. I value facts. Not scientific facts but facts that can be verified by any normal run of the mill dude. Alot of what's in the Bagavad Gita is common sense and 90% is simply not followed by us. If we would just obey the rules of plain old ordinary common sense we would never even need religion. By the way, your friends insult you. Your enemies flatter you.
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Originally posted by MarkP4:
How can I prove anything? It's all ideas that depend on interpretations. If I see a religion doing something Christ said to not do in the Sermon on the Mount (as an example) then that's good enough for me.
-Jesus wasnt eliminating religion, he was rooting out all of the jew's and pharisee's misconceptions-
A misconception to one person is a truth to another. What are you gonna do? The bible is a psychological text where the characters are characters within you, not some historical facts that actually happened. I am the pharisees and the sadducees, I'm the roman soldiers, I'm Jesus, I'm peter, I'm the animals in the barn, I followed a star, I did this, I did that, it's about US not a bunch of cr*p that happened 2000 years ago. It's all happening right now. But no one cares. The bible is either a mirror or a hammer. You can observe yourself with it or whack someone over the head with it. What do most people do? Everyone's so right anymore. Right, right, right right, right. How does it feel?
Is This Not Offensive?
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