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Is there someone out there who is highly technical that can post his/her experience with PR and Technical Books? I am a CCIE and MCSE who have spent hundreds of hours reading technical books, and I am really excited about the PR concepts. People in my field have to constantly update their technical knowledge and many times have to pick up books with topics that they have never seen and are HIGHLY complex. We have to go beyond just reading the books in order to answer questions in the back of each chapter or be able to tell you what page a certain topic is on. We must KNOW and internalize the technical information and translate this into real world situations. Can PR do this? Is there not anyone out there who can give specific examples of how PR has helped in their field? Please do not the just give theoretical step-by-step processes on how to read technical books. For example: I took 2 hours and photo-read an Oreilly book called “DNS and BIND” a couple months back, and because I really understood the information, I was able to translate that knowledge into a real-world solution for my company and did………..

P.S. I hope that I am not asking for too much. I just think that this course sounds wonderful and would like more feedback.







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Dana has given some great advise for handling technical material on these post. Check out his responses.
http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000898.html http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000930.html http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000825.html

As you will note, if it is possible to learn by regular means it is made even more possible using the photoreading system. It is a matter of working progressively toward your goal. Dana explains the how to nicely.

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Netjedimaster, This is the identical situation that i am in. i am an MCSE and i am studying for my CCNP. I am just starting my PR course and i am very skeptical. The sheer volume of configurations and theories that have to be not only understood but committed to memory is very daunting but I am giving it a shot. The problem i am having with the process is that internally , i feel like i am cheating. If this actually works to help me understand and commit to memory all of this work then, would i be cheating?? Mnay others before me have done this work without using PR. So am i trying to find a easy way out?? Also, is mindmapping the only way to truly activate all of htis material?? It seems that now not only do i have to learn and understand the PR mehtod , now i have to learn how to properly mindmap. And how do you mindmap configurations??






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The problem i am having with the process is that internally , i feel like i am cheating. If this actually works to help me understand and commit to memory all of this work then, would i be cheating?? Mnay others before me have done this work without using PR.

How is learning to do something better cheating? Photoreading is a whole mind system using more of your brains to complete the task at hand and available to anyone who wants to learn it. Some people are blessed with good learning skills and it seems to come naturally for them all you are doing is putting yourself on even footing with those natural learners who use techniques similar to photoreading because they stumbled across them somewhere along the line in their career as students.

Mind mapping is the 'record' of your activation, a way of seeing the information you have learnt/gained from the text. It is useful in that you can later look at it and remember what you learnt, along with stuff you didn't record on the mind map being triggered in your memory.

Since mind mapping requires logical, creative thinking and hands on approach to create it uses more of your mind/memory banks which aid recall. For some things mind maps go only so far. For formulars etc you may need to devise some additional memory technique to aid recall. Mind maps are a starting point for memorising/learning. Start with a central theme topic or idea you want to remember and create your own method. What you devise yourself is better than anything that adheres to rules that make no sense to you. Remember 'your' mind maps are 'your' notes to aid 'your' recall. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not to anyone else. So you take the concept of mind mapping and make it your own.

One thing that is very useful with mind mapping (or any note taking system) is humour. If you get some goofy idea while making notes/mind maps record it. That little joke or doodle will trigger a lot of information in the conscious mind.

There are alternate notemaking techniques you might like to try. Check out this link for some ideas.
http://www.learnline.ntu.edu.au/studyskills/nm/nm_nl.html

This next site will help you to understand the basic principles of mind mapping for studying. Remember they are a starting point, you can do it anyway you want. You might even find yourself combining other notetaking techniques . There is nothing right or wrong about it it's your method of learning memorising
http://www.jcu.edu.au/studying/services/studyskills/mindmap/index.html

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Toaster, it is very noble of you to want to EARN your credentials. However, this does not mean that you have to go through the many sleepless nights of studying or constantly being away from your family like I had to do. I have been through the journey that you are taking and believe me it is very difficult, so IF THERE IS ANY WAY FOR YOU TO EARN YOUR CERTIFICATIONS BY WORKING SMARTER AND NOT HARDER THEN TAKE IT!
Now going back to the topic of discussion, I think the only way to know if this works is to give it a try so I will order this course and see how it goes. I figure that if 50% of the course’s claims were true than it would be beneficial. Hey Toaster, what do you think of the Memory Optimizer course? What if we could grab all the brain dumps out there from the Cisco career track and use this eleven mile memory web stuff to memorize all the questions/answers/theory and become the rain-man of networking:0)

P.S. I teach the CCNP track and may be able to help you on your journey. Shoot me E-mail if you need help/advice. L8tr








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