How about Yahoo? There messenger is fairly stable as long as you stay away from the chat rooms, And you can start a conference which is like a mini-chat room window, but far more stable, and only persons who are invited can join, and best of all, it has a decent quality voice chat that can be used in both the private message box/ conference box and the chat rooms!! One note, to any who use bwgen, it seems that after you have run bwgen u have to restart the comp to run yahoo, it seems to be a bug in the bwgen, or maybe just my crappy comp Hope to see you all on Y!