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#34064 01/21/03 12:29 PM
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i was wondering if someone from lsc can confirm this part:
"i just wonder if scrolling on the *computer* messes up the photoreading steps ? since in photoreading it is a "still image" from page to page that we take in. As opposed to here where it moves? more specifically, i wonder if the blurriness, due to *high-speed* scrolling, of the pages makes it impossible to pick up anything. does it have to scroll at a particular **speed** to work? after all in the photoreading process with regular books we *look at the page for a second or two*, whereas here it seems even less than that... any thoughts? tks!!

ps: i heard that the Photoreading book 3rd edition discusses using photoreading on the computer, but unfortunately i own a previous version so i don't know what it says....






#34065 01/21/03 03:36 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by andromeda:
i was wondering if someone from lsc can confirm this part:
"i just wonder if scrolling on the *computer* messes up the photoreading steps ? since in photoreading it is a "still image" from page to page that we take in.

You would do the PhotoReading step just the same. Accelerated Learning State/3-2-1 Method. Pre-Affirmations. Photofocus/Tangerine/Blip Page. Maintain a Steady State/4-3-2-1 Chant. Closing Affirmations.

The only difference is instead of flipping pages, you are scrolling through the material.








#34066 01/22/03 12:45 AM
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thanks for your response. but i still have my question with regard to the speed of the scrolling. the reason is that i can scroll through "war and peace" in like 7 seconds. and there it is absolutely impossible to see any letters or anything. that's why i was asking what the right speed is for scrolling. again, there is no still image as in the regular photoreading step. any thoughts? thanks!!!






#34067 01/22/03 12:53 AM
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In my opinion, with that speed (7 seconds) there is a difference between a book and a computer monitor.

A book is physically in front of you, so if you were to "photoflip" it, your mind would still get all that information (I'd still recommend photoflipping 7 times or so, but that's just me).

With a monitor, you have to deal with the refresh rate of a monitor. Because a monitor can only refresh the screen so fast, if you were to scroll down the page faster than the monitor can refresh the signal, you would miss large portions of the book in the PR step (the upshot being scrolling through War & Peace on a computer monitor in 7 seconds is too fast).

The method I use for computer screens is to press the space bar or page down button repeatedly. Don't hold it down, just press it over and over again. What I usually do is time it as I do page flipping, but if you were to simulate the photoflipping process, you could probably just press it much faster.

The key is to press it repeatedly, because if you hold it down, the computer will scroll too fast and combine keystrokes, eventually leading you back to missing chunks of the text.

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Nice to see you around Ramon.

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#34069 01/22/03 04:54 AM
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I just hold the space bar or page up or down and let it roll if anything I have found photoreading on the computer much faster than books. For activation I just set up the mouse and let it scroll.

Really NOPS. Play with it and see.

Alex






#34070 01/24/03 03:33 AM
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thanks for your responses!

I wanted to ask a follow-up question.

While I see that you try to imitate the regular book experience (with pr) by simply pressing the space bar to move the text down, I am curious if the same result could also be achieved using a special mouse.

By this I mean, I have a mouse that allows me to scroll without touching the computer or mouse altogether. In other words, it lets me fully concentrate on photoreading versus having to continuously hit some space bar.

So here's my question: do you think it is possible, not for the super dip part, but for the photoreading step to use the mouse scroll button (set to automatic scrolling) as long as you go at a particular speed? And if so, what is the ideal speed? I could easily time an appropriate speed with my metronome. Does anyone have any measurements?

Would anyone know what the best speed is (so as to circumvent any possibility of losing content through refreshing rates, if that even occurs with our high tech monitors these days).

Since I am on this topic I was wondering if anyone also had problems putting a "still" 3d image in the background when making a stereoreading webpage of their own reading content? Again, thanks!






#34071 01/24/03 04:54 AM
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That mouse scroll is the one that is actually irritating for photoreading. Space bar or page down jumps the pages in blocks similar to page flipping. I only use the mouse scroll when I want to sit back and Superread and Dip.

Alex







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