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Hello all, I just want to share a really strange experience. Background: Ive been photoreading for almost two years. I bought the book, and then bought the home study course. It took two tries for me to get it... but I finally got it!! I might even take the seminar one of these days. EVERYTIME I photoread, I get intense vivid dreams that night. This is not random, but it is EVERYTIME. Last night was one hell of a dream. I teach computer networking classes, and am working on getting the CCIE (Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert). I went to the local Barnes and Nobles - and photoread five books. Now, I have never done five books before. That night, I had a vivid dream that seemed to have lasted forever. I realized I was dreaming (I have been playing with lucid dreaming for a while). It seemed to have lasted for 10-20 minutes. The really scary thing was that I couldn't stop the dream. Usually on lucid dreams if you get scared, you will snap out of it right away. This time was different... I tried everything in the book. I tried willing myself out. I tried scaring myself out of the dream. I tried the spinnig top method (where you put your arms out and spin) - this usually prolongs the dream (according to research), but for me it stops the dreams. That didn't work. I must have spent several minutes trying to get out of the dream, but couldn't. It got to the point where I thought, "Oh crap... maybe the reason I can't get out is that I'm dead." Yikes! But hey.... any dream is a good dream right?? Humphrey www.not5150.com
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Did you try creating a bed and going to sleep in the dream? According to Stephen LaBerge's 'Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming,' this can often times do the opposite of going to sleep in reality. It will make you wake up. Scaring yourself out of the dream isn't going to do much good usually. Most of the time, you just scare yourself. If the thought "I wonder if I'm dead" comes to you in the dream, then you've got a horrible theory at best. Use logic. You don't know what being dead feels like, but you DO know what dreams feel like.
One thing that it could simply have been is that your body needed to finish off its REM period, and you just happened to be conscious during the vividness of the period itself. Though this does not happen often, or possibly even at all, I think it could have been possible.
If you find that it's lasting longer than you wish, try to find some way to pass the time. Have some attractive women morph behind you and go "hang out" with them. Or, activate more material. Let yourself fall out of lucidity, and let the dream become spontaneous again, or revisit a past memory that you believe you have forgotten consciously. -youngprer
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Hello, No, didn't try the sleeping in the bed trick. Dunno if that would have worked in this case. To say that scaring yourself out of a dream doesn't work is not correct. It might not work in your case, but for me it has always worked in the past. Remember that dreams and how people react are very individualistic behaviors. I think you might have misunderstood the "I might be dead part" It wasn't something I thought to get myself out of it. In fact, it was something I thought, after SEVERAL minutes trying to get out of the dream. Imagine that you have been able to get out of your dreams in a few seconds, and that now you have a dream where you cannot get out. I was very logical and didn't panic until the very end... I was basically trying everything I knew. Kinda like, "Ok... that didn't work. Let's try this." Before this scary phase, I had about 10-15 minutes of playing around. I knew that I was lucid, and went at it. Then I got bored, and tried to get out - thus my previous post. Humphrey www.not5150.com
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Well, I hope you're not dead. If you are, that puts my ontological nature in question. I usually ask for a dream on something (or everything) I've PhotoRead. They're not always pretty, but they do relate. Out of curiosity, how did your nightmare relate to the books?
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As far as I can tell, no direct relation. No cisco equipment in my dream  Humphrey www.not5150.com
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OK, here's a force-fit. "What if you had a dream so real, that you swore you weren't dreaming. What if you were unable to awake from that dream?" If there's one nightmare that involves routers and networks, it is The Matrix. 
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i dont have the photoreading course but am thinking about purchasing it i dont know what lucid dreaming is, but i think i had the same dillemma once. i had this wack dream and tried to open my eyes but couldn't. does the photoreading course teach you to control your dreams? agent orange
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I think the worst is "layered" dreams. I had this one dream where I must have "woke up" over three times. What finally got me out of the constant-waking nightmare was my mother trying to rape me. I knew it was so out of character (all things being equal, I'm a guy and my mom's a lesbian), that I had to be dreaming. I thrashed around until I was sure I was awake (it sounded real - correct echo quality), then I got up and walked around until I was sure I wasn't going back to bed. This was before PhotoReading. PhotoReading doesn't teach lucidity, but it does give the preconscious mind more information than most people put in it. If you think of the mind as a house, then the conscious mind is the living-room and the preconscious mind is the foyer. PhotoReaders can host a party for 100 guests and never leave the foyer. If the dreaming mind is the bedroom, then dreaming after PhotoReading but before activating is like inviting guests to leave their coats on the bed. The secret is simple - ask for a dream about the book. Ask outloud, because that involves more parts of the brain. Anchor by drinking water, and then sleep.
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Yes those layeered dreams are nasty. More than a few times, I have "woken up" dressed, showered, only to find out it was a damn dream. DOH!! Humphrey www.not5150.com
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i dont remember any layered dreams but i've thought about them before kaiden can you put your metaphors in simpler terms for me. maybe its that i just got home from work but i didnt grasp what you were saying, other than asking for a dream andrew / agent_orange
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