Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ PhotoReading, Memory Optimizer How Do YOU Think?

Hmmm, no cooks here.

I think aurally, visually (images, colours, text, and numbers), but I also think in terms of smells and tastes. I cook more by feel and creativity as by recipe. I consider the incredients and mentally mix the combinations and see how the flavours mix before committing.

How about when you remember or mentally rehearse for a sporting event, don't you think kinetically? I know I do. Just yesterday I watched 10 minutes of one of those strong-man competitions and found myself sweating lightly after an event.

Whole brain and all sense thinking and living. You're probably doing more that you realize.

Observe and learn,

Iam2

ImageStreaming has made me more aware of touch--I used to be entirely visual (my imagestreams) but now I also focus on the touch, I can almost feel it! Very cool

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Originally posted by Schummel:

What me also helped, was the "clue" (attitude) of youngerpr, that sleeping/daydreaming is NOT a vaste of time. (Ty youngerpr, for the sentence: Sleeping 13 hours is phantastic ;-))

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You know, that's very true, too. Recently in my Spanish class, I was staring at the wall, thinking about the concept of selective thinking in relation to delusions, and was drawing a mind map of a few things I was thinking about, along with writing down some standard notes. The teacher called over to me, "Have you finished the workbook pages?"

They're due Wednesday.

"No."
"Are you going to finish them?"
"At home, yes," I told her. She looked at me with this huge glaring demeanor spread across her face, implying that I was lying.

"Don't look at me like that, I will do the work, just not right now," I assured her, and was really irritated she was looking at me like that.

"Well, then what are you going to do in the mean time? Just sit there?"

"No, I'm thinking."

This irritated her even more, and she went back to giving me that damn look again.

"About what?" she asked me. "I'm just curious?"

"Ya really wanna know?" I asked her, getting angry that she'd interrupted me.

"Yeah, I do," she said.
"Fine!"

I got up, and threw a sheet of paper onto her desk. It was some notes & writing talking about the relation of the prefrontal cortex area of the brain to lucid dreaming. She didn't understand a single word of it.

"...Where did you get this information?" she asked me, starting to not be quite so fed up with the fact that I wasn't working on Spanish.

"Books, people...places...I don't know, why?"

"What is it talking about?"

Then I went on for the next 30 minutes, teaching her about my longing for a lot of knowledge in psychology, talking about schizophrenics, common delusions, how some of them can take place, and my curiousity of the paranormal. In the end, all she had to say was something close to an apology, and that the workbook pages were due next class...

What does a kid do for hours when he's staring out the window? Do they really think he's thinking about nothing?

-youngprer

[This message has been edited by youngprer (edited April 22, 2003).]

same with me today.

Had my AP US test prep book out.
Spanish teacher teaching "por" and "para" usage. I was reading and listening. She called me twice to answer questions from a workbook which I didn't have at the time. I correctly answered both, being a good PRer I did PRed the workbook.

Chang

Go youngprer!

I totally feel for you, man! I am a lot smarter than many people think (not the forum), but, unfortunately, many times they don't listen to me b/c I'm just a "kid". "Kids" are smarter than they think...

WoW, A good majority of the people here are very young. I hope to join the club of PR's soon enough. Im 18 and, have such a craving for so much information. I also agree that most adults do not realize the intelligence that our Generation has. I bought the home study course about a year ago but Ive been very lazy. Last night I realized how much i wanted to reach my goals so i started over. Im doing 1 side of a tape a night, and listening to the memory supercharger everyday as well. I hope to add another succsess story in just one short month. Thank you all for the inspiration to start over, and sorry for rambling

-Benny

Actually, I'm not sure how much intelligence our generation has. On some level, yes - it feels like we're higher than the generations that came before, but on another...there's always those groups of idiots who have to make you uncertain.

Most of these kids hate being intelligent, the several that are. Most of the time, they got that way through being pushed to the ultimate limit, almost with their lives at risk. For example, I know this one kid(I can't say his name, sorry) who is able to get straight 100's on every single one of his papers. He never does any homework at home, finishes all his work in class, and never studies for tests. The whole reason he adapted that way is because he HAD to, because of his abusive family. He wasn't able to study or do work at home, because of the conditions, distractions, interruptions, etc.

So thinking about that, I should say that they hate having to be, or have been created to be intelligent because of whatever reasons they've been dealt. Most of the kids my age at school that I talk to about my inner most thoughts usually end up telling me,"I hate you! You think you're better than everyone else, and you think you have to act that way to be eccentric and unique. It's b#!@$!t!" So, now, I have to tell them, "Before I tell you what I'm thinking, please know that YOU are the one who asked for it, and that this is truly what I'm thinking, okay?"

Still, me telling them that never really seems to work, and because of this - I temporarily say, "Well, forget those #!$@!!" Then I dive back into my books, and deep thoughts to escape it. I come back out of my hole every once and a while to tell them what progress I've made, and in the end - it has just become a vicious cycle where...the very thing that has lead me to the brink of insanity from not being accepted is the same exact thing that causes me to rise to the top of them, the entire time the their weapon they use to try to bring me down causes me to just get stronger.

In the end, though, I don't think it's quite like that. I think that if I can find a way to tell it to them without the technical mumbo jumbo they hate so much, they'd be really interested. The few I've managed to do this with, cling to me waiting for my next discovery, and to grow deeper in their connection with my thought, and I can't help but cling to them back.

"No, there's more that you can learn! I can teach you about ___________!!" I tell them.

"Then why aren't you so perfect?" they bitterly spit back at me. Well, does it sound like I'm perfect?

"Even the most amazing architects, philosophers, and mathematicians have brought us, at best, to the super-chimpanzee level. Why is it that so few of the human population reach their true potential? Well, that can be answered in another question, and that's this: what is the more dominant human trait...fear...or laziness?" I once heard a guy say. (Actually, it was this old dude from the movie Waking Life. )

I don't think laziness truly does exist. What we call laziness, or procrastination, most of the time turns out to be something more than just - "we'd rather be doing something else more fun." Well, what is fun? Isn't that what we decide? After all, the whole reason movies and video games fascinate us is because they're designed to. Why not design everything else to dazzle and enlighten us? If you ask me, things like PhotoReading, or my more recent interest: lucid dreaming are not subjects that you'd encounter doing homework...for me...the benefits extend millions of miles beyond our conscious imaginings.

When you truly consider the possibilities of the realm of the unlimited...what is ever unappealing, or a cause for laziness?

-youngprer

This talk refreshes me. I agree that many in our generation have an aversion to intelligence. I was lucky to go to schools which weren't your typical American Public School scene, and to grow up in a very liberal town, Ann Arbor. Still, the stupidity and ignorance of our species shines through everywhere...Let me tell you High Schoolers: college is way better.

How I think: Very broadly, a mix of images, of all senses, words, and an intuitive "structural" sense, which is best described as Pure Concept. My Pure Concept thought is difficult to describe...it goes beyond words and images, and seems more like a "felt sense", although I direct and influence it quite purposively. It happens when I arrive at what I can only call the root, or archetype of a phenomena. I gain the sense that I understand the subject/object thoroughly. Part of this feeling is a seemingly contradictory assurance that even if I don't really remember everything about a subject/object that I can summon it up on demand...the specific facts derive from this understanding as necessary or called upon. There also appear to be gradations of this Pure Concept experience. For instance, after a session of insight meditation I can carry over the elevated faculties and experience of sensory enlargement into a very focussed, but 'philosophical' meditation, which often culminates in a more powerful experience of the Pure Concept. These thought exercises are more productive than when I approach them from my looser, less disciplined "every-day" mind-state, as I experience a heightened sense of concentration and energy. This type of thinking started, in its looser elements from a very early age-- not surprisingly I was one of those kids who rarely felt bored. It only developed to where it is now after focussed meditation practice and application. Now I feel the experience of the Pure Concept to be vital to any "full" understanding of any phenomena. I have also recently found a similar thinker in the poet/scientist/rennaisance-man Goethe, who, I believe, had a similar thought-process, and from whom I shed considerable light on my own. I still aspire to his levels of refinement, though. I hope this was somewhat understood. In addition to what I have mentioned, I apply certain philosophical tools to my thought to help clarify it as needed, such as Logic, General Semantics, and Deconstruction. Those 'principles' usually come as a blend of words/Pure Concept, and to a certain extent, have become integral to my thoughts in the first place, i.e. my thinking often begins from a Semantically Cognizant, Deconstructed and somewhat Logical orientation. I say "somewhat" because logic is not some eternally-true forever-self-evident presupposition of correct thought, it is a tool for clarifying causality, where our thinking can do so. It is only the FAITH of Aristotle that we could ever formulate a perfectly consistent, rigorously logical - in the formal sense- account of the universe. That's my lengthy post for the day.

Peace,
K.O.

P.S. Never underestimate your intelligence, just exercise it. For instance, the other day I got a combination lock keychain for free. I struck a desire to know how it worked, and how to design one, etc. I worked through the problem using visualization and a logical approach, bearing in mind mechanical principles. I eventually struck upon what seemed to be a complete conception, as intuited by my Pure Concept sense. I used some tools to carefully open it and I confirmed my conception. With no prior experience with lock design, and using only inferences from outward function and mechanical-thinking I correctly deduced all the principles and methods which go into a locking-mechanism- pins, wheels, clutches, tension mechanisms etc. Most people wouldn't spend time on something like that, but I believe that it was a valuable exercise which refined my cognitive ability. Always try to grow.

Now that you mention it, I often feel the same thing, or something like it. I feel like the 'felt' way of thinking is probably more of a sense, than a thought, at least, for me.

I feel many things when thinking about different subjects. Most of the time when approaching someone for the first time to meet them and talk to them, I go off of what I feel "in the pit of my stomach" about who they are and whether or not it's safe to ask them certain questions without their reaction being negative. Sometimes my emotions drive me, and get the best of me, though, and that's usually where these feelings I get can either screw me over, or overwhelm me, and prevent me from doing anything about a particular something.

Hope you're not confused.

-youngprer