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Hey all

I really havent tried to do direct learning on any books yet (because I forgot about it.....yah.....dont ask). Now that I've actually reread that part, it says in the steps about what new behaviors that I desire. Im not exactly sure of what that means. I tried to Direct Learn on Thursday night and the behavior I stated was " I want to generate the behavior of mastery in basic chemestry". Now, I spent a while trying to see what else was a behavior that can cause me to perform well on the test. I cant really define behavior to performance and I dont even have a clue as to where to begin about generating a behavior that will make me retain large amounts of accurate information. Im sure there is a behavior out there that fits that description but.......................what?

Can someone explain to me how you direct your mind to generate this behavior after you do it? Hell somebody just tell me how they direct learn.






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Heh,

Well......no one replied.......






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Do you play any "Storyteller" system games?

I ask because White Wolf's Storyteller system is very good at explaining the different kinds of things that can be learned.

The first type of ability is a talent. This is something that can be nurtured, but can't really be taught. It includes things like brawling, lying to people, and being able to notice details others might miss. This sort of thing is the best thing for direct learning. The behaviors here are easy. You can visualize yourself beating someone up, telling them falsehoods, or seeing that proverbial needle in the hay stack.

The next column of abilities is skills. These are things that one might have an inate aptitute for, but usually they are studied. However, they can be "faked." This would include crafts like soapmaking or leatherworking, how to program a VCR, or shooting a gun. Even if you don't have any training on how to do these, you can attempt it with a +1 difficulty modifier, according to the Storyteller rules. Again, the visualization is rather simple. Just imagine using the skill and there you have it. These are a bit harder to Direct Learn than the talents, but through practice you will activate the skills.

The last column of abilities on a Storyteller chracter sheet is knowledges. These are areas of knowledge such as languages, sciences, medicine, computers, the occult, etc. Under the rules the game, one cannot even attempt an action involving a knowledge unless one possesses a "dot" in the knowledge. These things are very hard to direct learn, simply because they deal so much more with FACTS than with BEHAVIORS. Spontanious activation can and does happen with knowledges, even ones as esoteric as quantum physics, but to have a real "framework," manual activation is still the best route.

Your better off aquiring "research" or "study habits" as a skill then trying for "chemestry" as a knowledge. In truth, chemestry is probably one of the better things for PhotoReading, as the Periodic Table of the Elements, if you truly understand it, is the only "cheat sheet" you'll need.

One thing that I've done is use Direct Learning on biography, in order to Direct Learn <I>modes of perception</I>. So far, I've only absorbed DaVinci and Franklin. Buckminster Fuller is next on the list. The one trivial thing that I've spontaniously activated in the realm of fact is that Franklin was not a Cassanova, although he played upon that reputation in order to live up to people's expectations. Another factoid, about DaVinci, is that his "John the Baptist" is actually Pan. In general we look for people who are "before their time." By we, I mean that I have an "analog" of Franklin and Davinci that I can "converse" with as imaginary friends, and I confer with them before adding other people.

Long story short - consider adding a Master Chemist to your own "board of directors." I've modified techniques outlined in "Natural Brilliance," "The Einstien Factor" and "Think and Grow Rich" in order to stumble upon this method.






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With a goal like yours, I would use NLP. I would visualize what a person (me) would be like (do) if I had that mastery or what I do to get that mastery.

How do you know you've mastered something? You can demonstrate your master.

How do you acquire that need skill? Well, with chemistry you study.

You can try DL the chemistry material, but branch out to some layman chemistry material. Use your chemistry knowledge. Become a chemistry nerd and see chemistry in everything.

Just my ramblings. Good luck,
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Most helpful.

Now, I am taking summer school. The subject is Biology and I am taking it to push it out of the way (since at Clark, the HS that I go to gives Physics as a default sci class for freshies). I hardly have any interest in it, and therefore, I treat it with extreme prejudice (lol, just a figure of speech).

I want to ensure that I reach my potential (which would be an A in the class).

Now what is troubling to me, is that I hardly have any real time use for this information. Consider this an........annoyance class, something we all dont like no matter what but we have to take it anyways.

What behaviors or advices can any of you people give me on how to reach my potential even though I hardly have any intest in Biology?

There only has been a 2 chapters that I was interested in the biology book, but the information wont be used again.

However, I have an immense interest in business.......more like entreprenuership.......

I have a book on real estate, and what I want to end up doing is that within three years, have ownership of several apartment complexes with a large, positive cashflow every month.

However, what behaviors exactly, do I want........I cant define...........Persuadsion?

-Note: If you respond, I dont want to hear critism of what I want to do (entreprenuership =D)






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One thing that people who are successful in any field is they have a thirst for knowledge in that field.

The want to know it, they get excited and curious about it. When you're excited about something you go out searching for more.

If you want to past biology you are going to have to have more curiosity and interest. No matter what you do photoreading wise if you keep telling yourself it's not important to you, you don't need it and are not interested in it. Your mind is going to take that as an affirmation and respond according to your 'expressed' needs and expectation.

Get excited about it you start finding information comes to you and you learn to the level that is important to you.

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Figures, I should have known

I never tell myself with biology that it is not important or is important.

Does anyone know how to triger or fire off interest in anything at will?

I will use NLP, probably when I get really excited as I am learning real estate management, I will anchor that feeling with my index or pinky finger or something.

Hmmmm.....but thats interest generated from what I like.....

Anyone know how to spawn a thirst for knowledge?






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If your trigger/anchor is strong enough (the thing you like that you created the trigger for is stronger than your lack of interest for biology). Then you can use that trigger/anchor for changing your feelings about biology.

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I think the problem here is that you don't see any reason to be excited in your chemistry class because you haven't developed the curiosity that is at the root of all science. If you don't have that willingness to understand how chemistry works and why, you won't have the motivation to do scientific research. Your reason for being in chemistry and biology class becomes the linchpin or taproot of all you do.

I'd suggest you take a weekend and PR + rapidread (without activation) scientific biographies of history's great chemists and biologists to give you a broad idea of how you fit into the historical flow of the field. Then you'll understand that chemistry isn't a boring thing set in stone but a series of experiments that you may choose to add on to if you follow in the field. And finally you'll see that before the huge deluge of data, chemistry and biology starts with a person asking an often very simple question. Some recommended reading to find out what types of questions the greats have asked themselves:

here's a link to Time's 20 Great Scientists of the 20th Century

link to the article What's Next? by Sir John Maddox

either of these books provide more general stories:
100 Scientists Who Shaped World History by John Hudson Tiner
Microbe Hunters by Paul deKruif.

If you can imagine yourself asking such questions or are fascinated by the path these people have followed then your already latent interest in chemistry and biology will automatically increase. Perhaps you'll find yourself making scientific enquiries someday soon. Good luck in your studies.

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Again, most helpful

Hmmmmm, I don't have any real interest in biology but............

What if I did this, even though I am no particularly fond of Biology or any other subject I am not fond in, I ask well formed questions that are superficial in detail, but I end up creating chain questions.....

Hm.......chain questions..........Hey! I just made up a new way to trigger interest........ask one question like

"What the hell is the main point of what I just photoread?"

"Whats the key idea the author is trying to get across to me?"

Something superficial in that mannor. Then after I can answer that, I ask questions like this:

(Given that this is a bio book)

"What lead the authors or the scientist to come to the conclusion of life starting from inorganic materials?"

"Why?"

"Why is that true and not (something else)"

"Whats the difference between X and Y?"

Chain questions.....keep asking each question you've answered....

Why do I get the feeling that this is suppose to be how activation goes......
lol........

(>'-'< )

Hey I just had another idea, why don't I ask the questions first or look over the review questions before I photoread, and then Photoread and then hunt out the answers after photoreading?

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