thanks mate was looking to do what your saying as well as listening to tapes atnight,(dont think made myself clear)as have been doing research into hypnopedia (sleep learning), my premise is that sleep learning will help me absorb the material into my other than conscious mind and then doing the exercises as well will make the whole process a lot faster and cos i have it in my mind already and hence it makes the material more easier to learn like paul said on one of the tapes how can you read something you dont know (or words to that affect) what i didn't understand was why pr the prwms book so amny times by the way you said you photoread the Nb book several times did it help you apply the Nb model cos what you where doing was Direct Learning was it not??? anyway mate will take you suggestions on board but like you said NOPS!!!!!