Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ PhotoReading, Memory Optimizer speed reading championships

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Originally posted by Gino777:
Alex G, where can I find more info about these speed reading competitions?

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Hey Gino, you can find more info at Mind Sports Worldwide www.msoworld.com The exact link is http://www.msoworld.com/2004/results/speedreading.html

PhotoReading is not speedreading.

PhotoReading isn't about pushing the eyeball faster across the page trying to comprehend as you read. In the US anything above 800 wpm is skimming it's because courts have ruled that it is physically impossible for someone to read at speeds greater than this given that the conscious mind can only process 7 plus or minus 9 bits of information a second. Therefore at 60 seconds to a minute 9 x 60 = 540 the best "reading speed"

PhotoReading allows the non-conscious mind to process the information so that it is possible for a beginner to get their reading done in 1/3 the time it takes to tradtionally read.

I am not interested in participating in a "Speed Reading" contest because I teach people to PhotoRead. And I want them to understand that when you do all the steps of the PhotoReading system you will have a the same or better comprehension of 70 to 90% of the material that you have PhotoRead and that all the information is available to you. And your actual WPM reading speed has little impact on you getting that knowledge.

Of course we've played with it too an example on a thread from 2002

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posted September 25, 2002 07:22 AM I just photoread it. Scrolling down gave me a 'reading' speed of 5214 resulting in 91% comprehension. I learned a lesson about second guessing too... would have scored 100% if I'd have stuck with my first answer.

Honestly though the questions seem to be logical rather than comprehension.

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The thread http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002555.html

For clarification I PhotoRead I did not speed read. And I only did the PhotoReading step.

Alex

[This message has been edited by Alex K. Viefhaus (edited February 17, 2005).]

I just wanted to throw an additional thought from one of PhotoReading's competitor's. They use the fact that no PhotoReading students compete in speed reading championships to prove that the claims of PhotoReading are not true. The question is... do you want to prove them wrong?

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Can I read at 25,000 words per minute?
Examples: PhotoReading, Infinity Reading System, Mental Photography

You can turn pages at 25,000 words per minute, however you won't be understanding or learning what you are seeing in any great detail. If you look at these courses closely, the "image reading" part of the system is often followed by subsequent phases where you have to read at slower rates to "activate" the material you've read.

Here's my point of view: These courses are teaching you to skim read very quickly first. You'll pick up maybe 5% of the material. You then skim read at a normal pace, adding a further maybe 10-20% to your understanding of the book. When you then read the material in detail, you'll feel like the material is "activating" in your mind. In reality, you are just recalling what you saw during the skim reading.

You don't need to pay $240 to $800 or more to learn how to skim read.

If you want further evidence, take a look at the results from the 2003 Speed Reading World Championships, held in the UK:

Position Entrant
Raw WPM Compre-
hension Effective
WPM
1st Anne L. Jones 2284 56.30% 1285
2nd Andrew Havery 1108 56.30% 623
3rd Henry Hopking 1330 45.80% 610

Which method does Anne Jones teach? The same simple techniques I teach you in this course. If systems such as PhotoReading work, why don’t we see much higher results in these types of events?

EOQutoe

I do not wish to cause dissension; I just wish to better understand why you would not want to challenge those who attempt to discredit PhotoReading. I am trying to understand whether or not obtaining the same objective... comprehension of material... should outway the differences between PhotoReading and Speed Reading, or if they are so vastly different that someone who PhotoReads would not be allowed into the competition.

Thanks,

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Originally posted by nclekas:

Can I read at 25,000 words per minute?

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Please, guys. Have someone read the PhotoReading marketing materials out loud for you.

PhotoReading is not reading and it's not skimming we are achieveing better than 50% comprehension of the text by using the Whole system.

Ironically those companies only compare the PhotoReading step not what you are taught to do in Whole Mind System. You do not need to "Skim" at 2000 wpm to finish a book in 20 minutes with only 50% comprehension. I wrote a comprehensive book report after spending 15 minutes with the book.

About that "contest" 7th place reading speed of 90wpm with 25% comprehension is interesting.

Even with that current reading speed that person would have finished the book with a lot better comprehension. Had he applied the PhotoReading system to the book. Using the activation techniques for the remainder of of the 2 hours. In that time his comprehension levels would have been 70 to 90% and he would have completed the whole book using his current reading speed and skills. The reason he failed so miserably is that he was still in the first chapters of the book.

At the PhotoReading Retreat in February 2004, 120 people PhotoRead and activated a book in 30 minutes and at the end of that 30 minutes gave a detailed report of what that book was about. The lenght of the books averaged 99,000 words. None of us would read at 2000wpm. We use a different approach to reading.

Alex

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I mean, Wouldn't the speed reading world champion know the secrets of reading at 25000 word per minute.

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The main purpose for speed reader person is to understand how this person read! You need to read an look to yourself from out side and decide how you can improve you reading rate. You can't absorb all information what you're read. All text contain 50% of garbage.

Use online free trainings on http://www.ababasoft.com/words/ . Some trainings randomly delete letters. Anther program delete wolves letter. One of trainings strip the text so you can't read the text in line strategy.

Try to use the next strategy -

Skim the text by 1 min. Think about reading.
Skim the text by 1 min. Think about reading.
Skim the text by 1 min. Think about reading.
Skim the text by 1 min. Think about reading.