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#45661 10/10/05 09:09 PM
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Hello,

for my second 5 days test I've chosen Buzan's Mind-Map book. I think it's well known to some people in this forum.
Purposes are:
- Find best way to LEARN mindmapping,
- Learn the rules how to mindmap
- Find out the areas where it can be applied.
- Above three items should be quite detailed, so that I'm able to apply MM in daily life.

Buzans book is well structured, so I can find all these items easily. Nevertheless I collected a lot of triggerwords and because one of my purpose is to know it very detailed, during activation I write it down to mindmap quite detailed. Thus, in one 30 min session I can only handle 1 or 2 mindprobing questions, so 5 days test transforms to 15 days test. Is this procedure still ok for (1)5 days test or should I choose a book, where I don't want such a deep knowledge?

Hermi
P.S.: I want to emphasize, that I don't feel bad, doing this and I'm sure that this way is much more efficient than my original style of passive reading. I've the feeling that progress is still fine, although it takes longer than originally intended.


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Shorten the activation do 2 10-minute one. You'll get more questions. It appears what you are doing is studying mind mapping and have created a course from the book. I'f that's your goal then that's fine.

You can learn mind mapping formally in one day so I suggest you spend no more than 4 hours with the book. Spend more time doing mind mapping than reading.

No matter how detailed you want to get with a book you do not spend more than 8 minute doing a preview and should collect only 20 to 25 trigger words.

Alex


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quote:
Originally posted by Alex K. Viefhaus:
Shorten the activation do 2 10-minute one. You'll get more questions.

To avoid misunderstandings. I have already a lot of questions. I first created triggerwords out of "important" titles (about 20). Then, during activation passes, I create mind-probing questions out of these triggerwords (titles).

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You can learn mind mapping formally in one day so I suggest you spend no more than 4 hours with the book. Spend more time doing mind mapping than reading.


Totally agree, learning mindmapping itself could be done in a short time. But Buzan offers different strategies for different mindmapping purposes (self-analyzing, group-mindmapping, mindmapping in meeting and so on and so on.....). And my purpose now was, also to learn these strategies. Thus it would/will take longer than 4 hours.
Do you think it's not worth, learning these strategies?

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No matter how detailed you want to get with a book you do not spend more than 8 minute doing a preview and should collect only 20 to 25 trigger words.
Alex


Ok, Alex.

Thank you very much
Hermi


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Purpose... What is your purpose. ARe you reading or doing the mind maps as part of the learning as you go. I feel there is no need to spend more than 4 hours in actual reading you might beneift more by creating some of the mind maps suggested.

Alex


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quote:
Originally posted by Alex K. Viefhaus:
Purpose... What is your purpose. ARe you reading or doing the mind maps as part of the learning as you go. I feel there is no need to spend more than 4 hours in actual reading you might beneift more by creating some of the mind maps suggested.

Alex



Hi Alex,

I'm NOT doing the mindmaps as part of learning.
As stated above I had mainly 3 purposes.
Currently one purpose is remaining, because I've fullfilled first 2 purposes.
Remaining purpose is:
In which areas can mindmapping be applied and which are proposed steps to apply mindmapping in these areas properly.

I found, that nearly every area has different steps of how mindmapping should be applied. Thus, during PR activation step, I write down found steps in my PR activation mindmap. If there are 10 or more different areas, each containing 5 steps, then this will take time to write down in PR activation mindmap.

Do you not agree?

Hermi


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If you are mind mapping while activating you might want to try doing it after instead. Mind mapping is not reading in itself. It's plotting your findings and getting building the mind body connection.

Alex


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Alex, I guess your concern regarding mindmapping during activation is this, that
mindmapping is NOT reading and should thus not be added to activation/reading duration.

I agree on this.

If I remove mindmapping duration, actual activation/reading duration will (dramatically) decrease, of course.
But is there a drawback of mindmapping during activation? Otherwise I have to remember a lot of things until the end of activation phase.

Hermi


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Nope my concern about mind mapping during activation is that people get too carried away in detail.

You see if you have PhotoRead the information is already in your other than conscious mind. So activation is only to make it conscious and any mind mapping you do is only to help you access the rest in your other than conscious mind in the future. If you're doing a detailed mind map you are either experiementing to put the principle of that book to work or (and this would apply to any other book where you are putting a lot of detail onto the mind map as you activate) don't trust your mind. To build trust. Mind map at the end of an activation pass.

Naturally you will forget what you activated as you answer one question after another. That's why you mind map again at the end. To recall it again and strengthen the neural pathway.

Like I said activate in shorter blocks of time. Become aware of how you are using the time.

Alex


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It's not possible to escape, Alex will catch you
You are right, Alex, although I learned to trust my mind after applying memorization techniques, I do not so after plain reading. I'll change this now and do shorter activation passes and mindmap at the end.

Thx a lot Alex
Hermi


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"But Buzan offers different strategies for different mindmapping purposes (self-analyzing, group-mindmapping, mindmapping in meeting and so on and so on.....)."

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