Thanks Pete, that helps. The only other question I had was, should you allow the breathing to settle in to what it naturally wants to do. this is the only way I can get to the state of relaxation, it seems. Or should we deliberately guide the breath to be somewhat longer and deeper, pulling it in and pushing it out. Especially in Small Universe, I'm wondering if the visualization should follow the pace of the natural breathing or if you really want to deliberately elongate the breaths.