Aloha,
Thanks for the story Jeffdengr. I'm looking forward to spending some time with you at the 6-day retreat (not that there will a lot of down time for either of us.) And now I know why I like you - you're a fisherman too 
Thanks Kaye Lee for the martial arts analogy - we'll have to get together at the 6-day also and you can show me that skill for Isaiah.
You do such a unique job keeping things grounded in your replies Alex, and I know you appreciated how this Forum addressed this particular post and question.
Thanks Brutha for your patience in letting this play out. You may not have gotten the answer you wanted, but instead one a little more to the point.
I look forward to you sharing your experiences with SFQ if you choose to jump into it.
And to all the rest of our Forum readers and posters...
Much Love.
Shawn
[This message has been edited by Shawn_Grim (edited July 28, 2005).]