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My son's eczema is really bad at the moment after a good spell of about 5 years and I'm looking for any help you can give about using level 2 techniques. Eczema isn't mentioned in the booklet for level 2. I assume that it's connected with lung energy and when I 'treat' him as as do most nights I go throught the usual strategy of small universe, clearing C7 and the rest of the spine before I open up the wndows to the lungs and then clear the lungs themselves. I tend also to clear the liver ( a kind of intuition that this needs doing), sometimes the gallbladder of blockages and then give energy. Recently I have cleared areas that are most itchy - generally legs and feet.

There is no doubt in my mind that it helps but is there something I'm missing that might help more? Have you worked with somebody with eczema or do you just have some intutions/insights into what I might do as well, or perhaps differently.

Perhaps I should check for blockages as Master Lin sets out on the DVD but I find this difficult to do at the moment. It's as if I don't quite trust what I feel - I do trust the clearing of the blockage procedure but I'm much less confident with blockage detection. Now you might say that my son's predicament is a strong message from the universe to get to grips with detecting blockages and clearly I do have to do that longer term. But it's that old problem of time and sometimes it seems easier to go for something where I feel more sure in the time that I have.

I would really welcome thoughts. When I asked for help with my daughter's asthma this forum was an absolute godsend with contributions from people like Gallen (Hello Gallen are you still tuning in from time to time and can you help me with this?!) I felt that the things I began to do as a result of the help I got then really moved my healing ability forward, not just for my daughter but for others.

Another thought - a healer that my son is working with has suggested that fear is a key factor for my son and, I'm talking to myeself partly at this point, fear is connected with kidney energy - is that right??

Anyway - help/thoughts would be much appreciated.

Love

Kev

Hi Kev,
Yes, I am still around. I guess 'lurking' is the netspeak term!
Bottom line. Just clear your son and leave out the doubts and fears.
My first answer would be to, scan your son, and the energy is at it is. If there is a physical blockage, you will detect it. Within that, perhaps what did you feel, or what came to mind, 'if' anything does/did. Maybe some insight...

We know that many blockages come from emotional source. Knowing that, doesn't mean you switch to academic mode and work with information, as opposed to dectecting(feeling the energy) and clearing. Don't switch to "thinking and clearing"!
We also know that we can help someone heal, but they have to heal themselves.
If there is an emotional source to this blockage, it is your son's transformation and understanding that will clear the source cause. I wouldn't add that 'fear' factor into the mix. It will get you running in circles, thinking too much.

Some five element charts speak of positive attributes in regards to the five organs, along with the negative ones. One positive emotional attribute associated with lung energy is courage. Maybe self confidence , or being self conscious about something relates to that. Also, your behavior or mannerisms around your son, while doing the clearing , should be free of any judgements about any possibilities that make you feel frantic in any way, or nervous, or doubtful, as you clear his energy.

It is absolute, that you 'can' clear his energy whether you can detect the blockage or not. Just go through the steps as given.
It would serve you very well, to focus on this detecting energy thing. Put your energy there, instead of looking elsewhere for clues. The energy tells you a lot. Try working more with long distance healing regarding your son. Get in a quiet place, relax, and take you time scanning him and doing the clearing. Make it a nice meditative experience that helps both you develop as a healer, and also cover keeping your son's energy clear. Understanding comes with time, and practice. Whether it is your own, or in regards to someone else. Practice the practice. Don't leave out the detecting part. It is important for you to work with that and feel comfortable about it. Your intuition can grow as a result of your practice, and that can come into the detecting and scanning aspect, as well as what energy you put back in, whether in a session through your intention/visualizations/prayers, or as understanding given to help someone transform.
love,
gallen

Hi Gallen

I'm delighted that you're still lurking around! Thank you for a really useful reply and in some respects your bottom line says it all - i must just get on with the business of clearing Jack and putting my trust in the process. The strange thing is that I replied to another post the same day as this and gave some 'advice' to let go of seeing something as a problem, not realising that it was the very advice that I needed. Your thoughts about staying away from academic mode are well placed. I suppose what happens is that I get really distressed when he suffers - he hasn't been sleeping well with the itching and it messes up the daytime for him too. He's 17, doing well in his studies and he has dreams of what he wants to do, as we all do at that age. I love him and I love his dreams. So I move to academic/analytical mode and try to 'fix it'. And yes I need to be calm and centred when I work with him - I'm doing quite well in this reagard but sometimes...

When I first started removing blockages it was a mysterious business but now I have more experience I'm able to notice sensations connected with the process and use them. And I've had some marvellous moments where I really felt I made a difference. With some people they give me feedback about what's happening and this helps me find my way more. Jack has no sensations that he is aware of when I do healing work with him, unlike my daughter or wife, so I am more on my own in that regard. I really like the idea of doing distant healing with him for several reasons. Firstly I've felt a need to work at that side of healing, but also it allows me not to be so affected by my distress if I can see him scratching. Also I do need to get myself into a regular habit of detecting blockages and this is my opportunity. You say "If there is a physical blockage, you will detect it" and your confidence in this gives me confidence. I just have to trust and that seems much more straightforward now. I can see that I'm going to be sharing what happens and asking some more questions as I learn more about the process,so prepare yourself!

Many thanks and much love

Kev

Hi Gallen

I’ve just worked on Jack from a distance. I thought it best to ask his permission over the airwaves first! He seemed keen enough! In a good better best sense is it better if he is in a relaxed state the ‘other end’ when you do this?

The detection of blockages is interesting! Once I’d ‘given myself permission’ to successfully look for blockages I noticed a number of things. For me it seems that at the moment information comes in via temperature differences and sometimes a little tingling. I also get some thoughts arriving that seem helpful. I notice that if I’m not sure what I’m feeling it helps to move my hand away into a neutral zone for a while and come back and then I can feel more clearly.

Chunyi doesn’t give detailed instructions about the places to visit for blockages and I don’t always know where organs are but my guess is that this doesn’t matter. Also I rotate my internal image of Jack to suit my detecting, eg I get his head down low when I’m detecting blockages at the top of his head. I assume that finding a blockage on his right shoulder, as I did, doesn’t necessarily need to relate to any organs or ‘known points’ – you find a message about a blockage and later clear it. I found a blockage in his spleen but Chunyi doesn’t mention this ever. At times I found blockages on one side and not the other and in my clearing I did what Chunyi suggested and cleared the good side as a reference for the other side to heal. There were places where I ‘expected’ blockages and didn’t find any and others where I found them when I didn’t expect them. Also when I came to clear a blockage I’d detected it seemed to me that there wasn’t anything much to clear. Perhaps the initial small universe work clears some of the smaller ones anyway?

It’s a bit strange clearing blockages when the person is not actually there and sometimes my concentration lapsed in a way that it doesn’t if I’m looking a the real person, although actually I quite often close my eyes then too. I tend to see dissolving blockages as swirly white smoke against a black background and when the area is completely black the blockage has gone – my hand feels lighter at about the same time although sometimes there are time lags. Does any one else find that sometimes blockages seem to take a long time to clear (Chunyi mentions that 2 minutes should do it but my subjective sense is that I sometimes take longer than that. On occasions the blockage feels ‘heavy’ or ‘sticky for a long time and then disappears very suddenly.) Also does anyone else find that their arms get tired during the process?

It’s interesting to compare the bits of this process that I’m familiar with, like clearing blockages, and those where I’m not. Clearing blockages has mysteries still but is quite a familiar and comfortable process. I need to remind myself that detecting blockages will also acquire this familiarity.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks again for helping me set out on this path.

Love

Kev

I’m still working at detecting blockages and something happened to me which I’d like to share.

I work up a few mornings ago with an image in my head of my son and there were some lights on various bits of his body which I took to be blockages. I began to go through the healing procedures ie the small universe, clearing C7 etc, but at some stage I realised that I was pretty drowsy still and began to do these movements in my mind rather than with my hands. I spent the next 45 minutes or so detecting blockages by noticing where the lights were on Jack’s body and clearing them by imagining the actions that I would normally do physically. Doing it this way has a very different quality because removed from the physical and potentially tiring process of doing lots of clearing I was in a position to notice more of what was going on and achieve an understanding of it that I can’t quite articulate. The lights on his body gradually disappeared until the blockage was cleared and often there was a relaxed feeling in the pit of my stomach which came at the same time – certainly I’ve never experienced that when doing blockage clearing in the usual way.

This experience hasn’t happened again but I felt like I was receiving ‘guidance’ from ‘somewhere else’ so I’m looking for ways to integrate this new awareness into what I more normally do.

I guess I already knew that this ‘virtual’ approach was possible because if I wake up with an upset stomach I have been able to clear the blockage in my mind and be settle enough to go back to sleep. Somebody made the comment on this forum that qi follows your thoughts and this is certainly how it seems.

Love

Kev

Hi K,
Regarding your questions... You can certainly work on someone whether they are coordinated with your intentions, location, or not. I find the best results when the friend I am helping is aware of the time I am doing it. They may go lie down and relax, or perhaps relax in a meditative position. With people I have done a fair amount of work with, there is a somewhat heightened sense of that meeting and shared intention. Receptiveness and trust is wonderful. Great to proceed with the work at that point.

My experience has been, that if I 'reread' the energy, trying to sense blockages in an area more than once, I start to lose clearity. Almost as if a speck of doubt tells you to look again, or try to feel something more significant, or repeating it to find 'your' way of detecting, or sort of overworking it to learn about yourself as healer too. I guess the most helpful direction, is to do it like you know what you are doing, stay focused, keep it moving. Reflection, 'after' the session. Efficiency and a purity, during the process. All this said, if someone has a big blockage, I may find myself engaged with that longer, both in the sensing, clearing, and in the putting in side of equation.

The spine and the five organs are the nuts and bolts to clear. That is a simple and effective roadmap. Remember that everything is connected, and working with the five organs and spine connects to everything ' vital'. The spleen is important, 'and' part of the stomach system. If you find a specific blockage there, fine. If you take a general approach to 'areas', like midsection, or upper or lower body, or upper or lower torso,,,,all these approaches yield results too. Specific, or not so specific. Each time can be, and usually is, a bit different, and is the way it is.

Doing the level II active exercises helps in regards to arm fatigue, like sword finger and thunderpalm exercise. There is something sometimes referred to as a "bridge" in the arms. It pretains to holding up your arms. Doing the exercises, builds the strength of that bridge. Holding up your arms becomes more and more an experience of being filled or bouyed with energy, as opposed to a muscular, or tired muscular sensation.
If you do tire, remain aware of your breathing in of spiritual energy(ohm), and that energy coming through you to your friend, to stay engaged and focused as you rest your hand a bit.
love,
gallen

Hi Gallen

Thanks for this advice.Plenty of things to act on here. I like the comments about not re-reading - I continue to work at feeling my confidence and am making progress here. The idea of a basic roadmap is a really useful idea but I like your suggestion that there is more than one way to do it.

I almost always do any healing with actual hand movements but I wasn't sure if you were implying that it is 'better' to do the healing 'physically' ie with actual rather than visualised hand movements and that was what made you suggest the level 2 exercises. I need to have a look at these, but meanwhile confess that I've never tried them. I've been working with specific level 1 active exercisesand small universe meditation to build my kidney energy which has been low. I have a kind of hernia that makes it more of a challenge to stand for a long time to do exercises so I tend to sit so that I can put in the time that I feel is necessary with eg moving of yin and yang. However it sounds as if there is useful advice about aspects of healing contained within the level 2 exercises which I need to look at. And I guess I can do those sitting for part of the time if necessary.

Plenty to follow up here!

Many thanks

Love

Kev

I think the level II active exercises are 'very' helpful, and important, if you are working on others.

I like using my hands, long distance or not. My preferences are not necessarily yours. " Allow yourself to develop with what is good for you." Don't necessarily do what I say I do! I am a wild and crazy guy!!

There are two things here,,,,your self healing, and healing others. Level I and II compliment those two aspects. If you have blockages, I wouldn't forego level I active for yourself. Try this:
On a day you are going to work on your son, do the level II exercises in the morning.
Work on your son at noontime that day. Go back to your level I exercises on other days. See if your sword fingers, palms, and cloud hands have a nice familiarity of experience/feeling from that morning. Sword fingers and thunderpalms are not easy in the beginning, regarding holding up your arms. 2 minutes might be it with each. If so , fine, do that and shoot for five down the road. These exercises are good for focus too. If your arms start to tire, focus on your breathing in of energy. That, and perhaps a visit to your hands,,,,the palms in thunderpalms , or the two fingers in sword fingers.
Focusing there, moves energy through the arms, as opposed to your mind going to any tiredness higher in your arms. As I say, focusing on the breathing instead is best as a base of focus. Relax the top of the shoulders too, if you start to tire. think of opening it up. It is when you are tired of holding it, that you can do some good work with the exercise. Sitting down is fine. Your arms can stay up longer than how you feel it. They don't all of sudden drop off. Developing focus is what this piece is about.
Cloud hands is very pleasant, as is 10,000 hands. You can spend time in them and really relax and open up. Whatever.... doing a level II active session relative to a healing session with others ,,,,,I think,,,,is good to look at. Again,,,,you make choices relative to yourself,,,,not relative to me.
love,
gallen

Hi Gallen

More wonderful and helpful advice - thanks for this. What you are offering is an excellent opportunity for me to move forward with some areas that I have not yet embraced. There's a balance about listening to others or listening to oneself which is quite complex. I like to at least 'hold' what others say and savour it for a while, then experiment and come to an understanding for myself (that's the theory anyway!) Also you bring a wealth of experience to the topics you comment on and that's always worth taking note of.

I want to share something wonderful with you. Last night Jack was very itchy from about 8 in the evening until 10.30. For possibly the first time he asked if I would give him some Qi Gong healing - I've always offered in the past. I knew I'd be distressed and indeed distracted by his scratching and as I started to say this he interrupted and asked if I could do it from a distance, which was what I was about to suggest.So I suggested that he went to bed and lay down and I would start in 5 minutes. I went up with him and he wanted to read a book to take his mind off things which I often say no to ( I want him to be #there' for the healing), but this time I decided it was ok. I asked him to take 3 deep breaths and went off to another room to start the work on him. I did a round of Small Universe which was a good idea to calm myself and then started, bearing in mind many of the things that you've mentioned.

I did the spine and main organs as you sugggested but in a very 'workmanlike' way, assuming that I would get the blockages and feeling confident about it. There were lots of blockages and I concentrated on clearing these and giving energy, taking breaks when necessary and doing a little visualised clearing to give me a break. I felt very much in touch with the process and had some good feelings in my gut as the blockages cleared. I took about 30 minutes and went in to see Jack. He'd turned out his light and was lying calmly on the bed. He went to the bathroom and then to bed to sleep and I felt that something significant had happened - I have no way of explaining why.

This morning I called in to see him before going to work and said as I always do 'how was your night?' 'Fine' he said. Now that doesn't sound like much until I tell you that I can't remember the last time he said that within the last few months. I should perhaps also tell you that I had a healing session with Chunyi earlier in the evening and I'm sure that helped me to be in a somewhat different place. However what feels to be the case is that, however I arrived in that state where I sensed I was doing good work, I now know more about the state I need to achieve (well there might be a range of states but I know about this one!). and I just feel deeply grateful to you for helping me to that place. I have felt very much lighter today!

With heartfelt thanks and love

Kev

...and you're my kind of "wild and crazy guy". Don't change a thing.

K.