Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ Beyond Human I popped Scheinfeld's new book into my hologram

Bob's stuff really does not invalidate our work or the work you do with us. So much of it is a matter of perspective and semantics. There's a lot of connection between Busting Loose, Abundance for Life, and Paul's new Effortless Abundance DVD coming out in February. Paul was extensively coached by Arnold Patent when he wrote Abundance for Life as was Bob when he wrote Busting Loose. And Arnold was in the audience when we filmed Effortless Abundance. So...get Arnold's books...

It not a question off invalidating LS work. The products from LS and other products of the self help industry are Phase 1 products. This means they are limited in their effectiveness. What Bob is proposing is a Phase 2 approach leading to an unlimited playing of the human game.

So the difference between those two are much more then semantic. In fact they exactly opposite. That AFL uses some aspects of Phase does not make it a Phase 2 product. One cannot mix those two approaches or even play both.

I am not familiar with Arnold Patent’s work. I only read his first book “You can
have it all” which is Phase 1 approach. Paul Scheele has been coached by Arnold P. as well as Bob Scheinfeld but Paul obviously did not use his knowledge to create a Phase 2 product.

In his book “Busting loose from the money game” Bob acknowledges Arnold P. input but he states that his main mentor was a B. W. My guess is that if Arnold P. would be that important then Bob would not have mentioned him or just as A. P.

I have the general impression that LS and others using the recommendation
marketing approach do not read what they are recommending.
I came to Bob’s first Phase 2 product through a recommendation email from
Bill Harris of Centerpointe. Obviously Bill did not do this course. Bob stated
in this course that holosync as a phase 1 product has no power and does not
work. If it seems to work then it does so only on once believes.

The same applies to LS products.

I read a book about 6 years ago buy a guy named Michael Misita called "How to believe in nothing and set yourself free." This book is hard to find but you can find it if you search for it. In the book he talks about how at one time he got so got at visualization that whatever he visualized for it would manifest in his life. Eventually he got tired of doing this and he reached a level of awarness that is beyond beliefs. He talks about how beliefs have limitation and clog up the mind. When I read Scheinfeld's book I realized that phase 2 is basically going beyond all beliefs. I think that going beyond all beliefs and jumping into Phase 2 takes major courage and onlya few people will be able to take the jump. Some people like myself still need there "training wheels" untill they are ready to take the plunge into Phase 2. There's nothing wrong with staying in Phase 1. This world is for playing and some people need to learn how powerful they really are buy manifesting and directing the one power to achieve what they want. Then after they realize how much power they have one day they will decide to release all beliefs and enter into a new level of awarness.

All tools are phase one if you’re in phase one. Same tools are phase two, when you’re in phase two. Phase’s concept to me is very limiting. Also, Bob has a very limiting view of the self. He believes there is true self that is creating this all. Expanded, Higher, or Universal consciousness. What about our current consciousness. By splitting the two as separate, very limiting. We are one. Paul teaches trust in us and is directing us back to the true source. Who we are. But, to believe one person, has the know all answers would be quite limiting. I have learned that everything is truly eternal and infinite. The experience is the journey. We are the creators of it.

The book "Busting Loose from the Money Game" has been taken out of LS
recommended reading list.
In the mean time someone Paul or Pete probably read the book and realized that it was not in the best interested of their business.
That is what I reiterated in my threads. I am certainly in favour of that book and consider it a good, honest and practical book but it puzzled me that LS
would promot those ideas.

Cheers,

I think Bob's phase two sounds like an extension of the Sedona Method, instead of releasing now we are reclaiming the power. Instead of releasing the emotion we are now collapsing entire fields of hologram energy that limit us in any way.

The first place I saw this concept of recaiming the energy was by Paul Scheele in Brilliant Mind which seemed pretty novel to me at the time.

It seems like recycling energy that you have already brought into a refined state and it is easier to redirect it since it not now working against you.

As we grow our minds also change. There is something of an old saying that until age forty we are defining our life. After age forty we are going back and changing our youth.

I think that Bob's phase two is still a phase one technic on a bigger dynamic.
It is an expanded application of Releasing such as Sedona or those offered by LSC.

These are all very good things and it is good to see that the book has not closed yet on us being able to change our reality by looking inside ourselfs.

I was so excited when I read the Busting Loose book last year that I joined the personal coaching program with Bob. After listening to him on all the mp3s I was totally disillusioned with my illusion :-)

I kept thinking, how did this guy bring this material through. He thinks his kids are inconvenient and his biggest problem is pimples.
He is so controlling that he makes Amazon take off any book reviews that he doesn't like. Given that my opinion is just my reality, I can't imagine why I made him up like that.

Because of the messenger I gave up on the message. Now I find out that the original message came from Arnold Patent. So I have sent for all his books and will find out more. And Arnold is a joyful twinkling gem of a man!

I just bought AFL and I know it's considered Phase 1 but it came across my path without my seeking it so I'm accepting that it's my Inner Wisdom's idea. I know Bob says you can't have a foot in both camps, phase 1 and phase 2 but that may only be true for him - if we all make it all up anyway.
And AFL is fun so I'm doing it!

Pam

Pam,

In the busting loose from the money game book Bob or now Robert
mentioned the initials of his most important mentor and coach.

It is in one of the first chapters. Because he often mentions
Arnold Patent I suppose he did not provide the key informaton
for him.

Cheers,

I also have some disagreements with ol Bob. I think you can access the "Big Mind" and play on that level but you still have a life to manage which includes toiletries and other mundane tasks.

If he is so controlling of his material, which he was on his early material as well I would think that he himself has never shifted from Phase 1.

It's also ridiculous that you cannot use phase one technics when in phase two. How limiting is that? Just because Bob said so?

Some aspects of this type of technic, whether you are releasing emotions or de-energizing holograms, you are working with tangible energy. When you release or de-energize this energy you create a vacuum. If you do not replace it with something of your own design you will get whatever gets sucked in to replace it.

Hence, Bob says that you will see a change. No kidding Bob. The, do nothing, phase two vacuum filling energy thing. Just push the "Surprise Button" that Bill Harris has spoke of is pretty much the samething.

My problem with many of these technics are that you Release but the energy is not replaced. Now they are working with "Reclaim the Power" which I think is kind of bogus. it's like trying to get money back after it has been spent. Or maybe we can reclaim the gas energy we have burnt up in our vehicles. Not happening.

Maybe my belief system doesn't have the faith to make it happen but I find it much easier to get get a fresh batch of energy someplace else that is much more beneficial. As a good example for reclaiming energy is given in Spring Forest Qigong whether you are doing the active exercises or doing the healing technics. Maybe have a nutritious meal. Maybe have a plan.

The only way this might improve things is if you are looking for improvement when applying the technic. When the vacuum is made put your expectation in there. The better defined your expectation is, the better the results.