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I've PRed a few books and wasn't successful.
So I analyzed what I did wrong (weak purpose, hard gaze instead of soft gaze) and where able to PR two books yesterday the correct way.

Today I activated one of the books, "The Power of Persuasion" by Robert Levine, which is about what people do to get other people do what they want them to do.
First I PRed it again, then I read the MP-Questions I had formulated from the Chapter titles yesterday and started Superreading and Dipping.
I was relaxed, open minded and passive (in the sense that I didn't try to force anything).

Even though I have already read the book about a year ago, there was no familiarity with the text, I wasn't drawn to any words, superreading was skimming.
So I read the chapter conventionally and found that there was some interesting information in it.

For an example: The author describes a study about how people react to someones orders if they perceive him/her as an authority.
The experiment was made in a hospital. Nurses where asked if they would give their patients medication, if someone would call by phone and tell them to do.
100% said: No.
This was the control group.

Then they tested it. One of the investigators called up some nursing stations, told the nurses to be a hospital physician and told them to give a patient a massive dose of a drug.
95% did.
95% of the patients would have died, if the nurses wheren't interrupted.

Now I ask myself what I did wrong.
Maybe you can help me.

1. Previewing the book (Content, Index, . . .)
2. Writing out Trigger words, One-Sentence-Summary and Purpose.
3. Stating purpose: I want to know how people get other people to do what they want so that I can get what I want from other people.
4. Ideal SoM, Affirmations, Tangerine
5. Photoreading: I turn the book upside down, look over the top, no blip page
6. Close book, Affirmations
7. Postview: MP-Questions: Whom do people trust?; What is the "Contrast Principle"?; How can I win people's hearts and minds?

Do I just lack of practice or have I done something wrong?

I also have a few other questions:

- What should I do after Photoreading? I mean can I go on with normal activities or do I have to keep my mind free?

- Can I PR another book a few minutes after PRing a book or would this confuse my sub-con?

- How fast could I turn the pages at maximum without missing information?

- Does font size have an influence on PR? Or to say it different: Do I need to be able to read the words consciously so that my sub-con is able to work with it?
As I understand PR it's not about reading words but rather decoding patterns.
If you have an E-book and you decrease the size of the page you can see that every page, every word has its own pattern. This leads me to the thought that it's not necessary to be able to read the text to be able to process it subconsiously.
What do you think? Are we able to PR four or more pages at once?

- In an NLP book by Rex Sikes I read that we shouldn't use affirmations but (affirmative) questions instead.
Instead of: "As I PR my concentration is absolute."
Use: "Is my concentration absolute as I PR?"
While statements cause conflicts in the mind, questions force it to answer and react stronger.

It became quite a long first thread. I hope you don't mind.

Hi,

I would expect if you have previewed the book for you to have some familiarity with the book. By the time i've done a quick preview i already know which sections are most likely to yield the information I need. So I wonder if you really have your goal in mind when previewing.

Are you saying you don't get the blip page at all?

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What should I do after Photoreading? I mean can I go on with normal activities or do I have to keep my mind free?

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Do anything that takes your mind away from the book. Get some exercise, relax, chill out etc. I find going for a brisk walk good... get some fresh air to the brain!

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Can I PR another book a few minutes after PRing a book or would this confuse my sub-con?

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You couldn't confuse your subconscious if you tried, it's way smarter than you think. I PR a number of books at a time, make sure I have my purpose and keywords written down and then PR a whole bunch together.

I do ensure that I use affirmations before and after each book, and visualise the book cover as I do so.

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- How fast could I turn the pages at maximum without missing information?

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On the deluxe DVDs there are people who photoflip, literally shooting through the book superman-style.

Go at a rate that you believe is right. That increases over time, I've noticed that myself. As your confidence improves, you will find that you can let go more easily.

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- Does font size have an influence on PR? Or to say it different: Do I need to be able to read the words consciously so that my sub-con is able to work with it?

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Font size isn't all that important, though if you can't read it with the naked eye then perhaps you might not get the results you want.

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What do you think? Are we able to PR four or more pages at once?

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sure, if it's readable.

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- In an NLP book by Rex Sikes I read that we shouldn't use affirmations but (affirmative) questions instead.
Instead of: "As I PR my concentration is absolute."
Use: "Is my concentration absolute as I PR?"
While statements cause conflicts in the mind, questions force it to answer and react stronger.

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Hmmm interesting one. I think that questions will distract you both consciously and unconsciously. The unconscious mind reacts literally to statetements made by the conscious mind, questions at this point will be distracting. Tell your unconscious what you want it to do and then get out of the way.


Matt

Hi Matt,

"I would expect if you have previewed the book for you to have some familiarity with the book. By the time i've done a quick preview i already know which sections are most likely to yield the information I need. So I wonder if you really have your goal in mind when previewing."

I thought that familiarity means that when I Superread and Dip I have the feeling that I already know everything in the book as if I would have finished reading it conventionally five minutes ago.

"Are you saying you don't get the blip page at all?"

I've seen it twice or thrice altogether since I try PR. But those were more flashes. I couldn't hold it. I tried to find the right way to look at the book but I'm not able to do it intentionally.
I'm also unable to see stereograms. I've read a bit about it and came to the conclusion that I'm not able to see them because I have a very dominant right eye.
I'm farsighted (not much), wear glasses and my left eye is weaker than my right one which seems to be the reason for it's dominance.

In the book Paul Scheele writes that it's recommended to do vision training.
But could this really get my eyes even?
I've asked my ophthalmologist if it's possible to improve eyesight naturally and she said no. And I don't want to have a laser-op.

In a Blip-Page-Thread on this forum Alex Viefhaus says that it's not necessary to see the Blip-Page to be able to PR, that it's just a visual cue that you're in Photofocus.

When I'm in Photofocus I recognize the whole book without being able to identify the words. After a few pages I fall into some kind of trance. It feels very intense, nothing exists except the book and there's a comfortable feeling in my brain.

I'm not sure if I'm doing everything right. I mean I follow all the steps but today I recognized that I'm too passive with the conscious parts of PR. I'm just awaiting that my sub-con does all the work.
With every book I PR I understand it better, but it takes more time than I thought to overcome my old reading habits or better said my concept of how the reading process has to happen.
In another thread I read a comment by you that one has to think of PR as a communication with the author. This was a very interesting point.
I used it with the last book and . . . I don't know how to describe it but it felt like I had made a step forward.
More and more I understand that PR is not just a different way to read but a different concept of thinking. Or rather a conscious imitation of the brains natural processes.

Thank you very much for being responsive to all my questions.

Korsakow

Hi Korsakow,

No you don't need to see the blip page, just follow Alex's suggestion.

I quote this from Alex's blog (http://phoenixquest.blogspot.com/):

The blip page will show up with experience. You'll notice that those PhotoReaders you admire just did it as best they could. The pros didn't even know about the blip page when he started. They just noticed it after a time that it was there. My first spontaneous activation happened without ever seeing a blip page. Even now I don't bother looking for the blip page. If I notice it fine. yet PhotoReading works just as well without it.

For me, previewing gives me:

a) Familiarity with the text
b) A feeling that this is a text that suits my purpose (I don't PR it if it isn't, sometimes I get everything I need from a preview)
c) A sense of structure and the language that the author uses
d) Key words and phrases
e) A whole bunch of new questions usually based on the chapter and subheading titles

And I get this in a few minutes.

I am pleased that you are finding the concept of a conversation with the author useful. For me this is the number 1 learning that will make your photoreading explode! Get involved, have a debate with the book. Sometimes when activating I get to something which is so mind blowing it kills my purpose dead. At that point I don't carry on activating... i put the book down, mull over the learning and then come back to the book with some new questions and a refreshed purpose. I'm engaging with the book and the author on a completely different level than passive reading.

And it is way more fun. I get through ten times as many books as I did before I PR'ed, and I got through Batchelor and Masters degrees - now I kick myself thinking about what I could have achieved if I had learnt this earlier on.

So it seems to me that you are already becoming aware of the benefits of photoreading, I hope that you continue to discover the wonders of this kind of reading and return to tell us about your successes!

Matt

Hi Matt,

I tried the "conversation concept" to PR today with 3 books and I have to say that it's a much more interesting way to PR than the pragmatic, dry approach outlined in the book.
I'm much more motivated and active because of this.
It's not perfect yet but I'll play around with it until I've adapted the basic concept and the conversation concept to my needs.

Thank you for your input, Matt.

Korsakow

Hi Korsakow,

Great news... you've made my day. The fact that you are now active in the conversation between you and your book means that you are already in the top percent or so of readers in the world! And it's so much more fun, isn't it?

Matt

Hi Matt,

I'm sorry for the late answer.

"Great news... you've made my day. The fact that you are now active in the conversation between you and your book means that you are already in the top percent or so of readers in the world!"

That's nice to read.

"And it's so much more fun, isn't it?"

Definitly.

The first three steps of PR work pretty well now. I'm a bit slow yet and easily distracted if I'm not in this kind of trance-like state during Photofocus but it will get better with consequent practicing.

Otherwise I have some problems with activating.
Or better said I don't know what to do.
Until now I waited with activation until the next day.
I start activating with reading my notices(title, author, trigger words, purpose) and take a look at the book cover and the first few pages.
Then I close my eyes, enter my imaginitive relaxing place where I'm welcomed by the author. We shake hands, have some small-talk and finally I ask him about the book using the trigger words to formulate my questions.

I forgot to mention that before I enter my relaxing place (but after closing my eyes) I restate my purpose.
First I state my BIG purpose (I want to improve as a man), to which I link the purpose for reading the book. I think of the BIG, more holistic purpose as an ideal help for the "book purpose" as it gets a clear goal and focus which (I think) makes it easier and more effective for my mind to process the following information from the book.

After talking with the author I start Super reading. And that's where the misery begins.
Should I have all my (MP) questions in my mind while reading or just the trigger words? Should I also think about my purpose all the time?

At first I picked out a single (trigger) word and then started SR.
I seemed to be able to "read" whole paragraphs and if my word was part of it my eyes didn't move on. They sticked to it.
But I didn't know what to do with it. Should I read the prior paragraph or the following or the whole page? Some trigger words I found in about every second sentence of a chapter.
Sometimes the author writes so much to the point that I have the feeling I can't leave out anything without missing something important, other writers just tell stories and to understand what they want to tell me I have to read the whole story.

Maybe it's just my lack of confidence and experience with using SR and Dipping but I don't know how to extract the information I need without reading most of the book.

(Besides this: The fact that I'm able to activate the book, that my sub-con leads my eyes to the trigger words, makes me happy as I see it as another step forward.)

Could you give me some advice, Matt?

If other people from the forum are able to give me some input they are naturally welcome too.

Start with just one or two mind probing questions. If you don't have a question in mind there's no point in activating. You don't want anything from the book.

Also try skittering books like textbooks rather than superreading. Technical text and page long paragraphs makes superreading less effective. You're not looking for your trigger words as such. Your trigger words are used for creating questions.

If you don't know the exact information you need you probably need to check your purpose for the book. The big picture is good, now see the book as one of the sub-goals that will help you reach that big picture. What can you learn from the book? How do you see yourself using that information. What information is it that you see yourself using? Now your purpose is to get that information conscious so that you can use it and move on the path toward your big picture.

Alex

Hi Alex,

"If you don't know the exact information you need you probably need to check your purpose for the book. The big picture is good, now see the book as one of the sub-goals that will help you reach that big picture. What can you learn from the book? How do you see yourself using that information. What information is it that you see yourself using? Now your purpose is to get that information conscious so that you can use it and move on the path toward your big picture."

Actually this is exactly what I have done. Maybe I expressed myself imprecisely.
My problem is that I still have a conventional concept of receiving answers to my questions.

e.g.: I read a book about persuasion and one of the trigger words I noted was "first impression".
So I asked: "How can I make an excellent first impression?"
In a conversation with a person I would await a more or less vast explanation.

But now I'm communicating with a book.
- All the information is printed and won't adapt to how I formulated my question - I say to myself.
And this is my mental block.
I'm able to find my trigger words, but I'm not able to get the answers to my MP questions because every time I think: "All the information is printed and won't adapt to how I formulated my question."

As I lack of confidence in the books ability to answer my questions I would need an advice that tells me how the book will communicate with me, how it will answer my questions.
Will I be traced to the paragraphs or sentences (or phrases?) that contain my answer or will I pick something from here and something from there?

Some writers are so friendly and offer a summary at the end of each chapter while others blather and blather and one has to read the whole chapter to get the information he needs.

Maybe I'm acting stupid but it's not so easy to overcome a long lasting concept.

Thank you for taking time to respond to my question, Alex.

Korsakow