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Would you recommend not to DL something the next day, if you have DLed something the day before?

I DLed drawing yesterday and am thinking about DLing NLP today or tomorrow.
Would you dissuade me from doing this as it could interfere with my recent DLed ability?

In the PR book there's only a short chapter about DL so I'm not sure how much time the sub-con needs to work on a single ability.

Can you DL something everyday like you can PR different books everday or is there a processing period where you should stay away from DLing something new?

And how long should this period be?

I recognized that I had drawn images popping into my mind the whole day. Well drawn pictures. So I'd assume that my sub-con has already finished the integration process.

But in another thread I read that Alex K. recommends to leave the DLed ability alone for about a month.

What are your experiences with this?

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Hi Korsakow.

I have never used or attempted to use direct learning so i cannot really say how you would go about using it.

My question for you is how are your activation techniques doing? Do you feel confident with your activation techniques? Do you feel you have mastered activation?

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Hi Photoread4me,

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My question for you is how are your activation techniques doing? Do you feel confident with your activation techniques? Do you feel you have mastered activation?





I wasn't able to activate a book yet.

I think I have two major problems:

1.Purpose
I recognized that after DL the drawing books there were poping up drawings in my mind all the time.
I never had this experience with PR before.

My conclusion is that I didn't want the information in the books enough.

When I select a book for PR, I think: "This could be interesting."

When I decided to DL the drawing books I had an honest desire to learn how to draw.

I don't know how PR works, but I remember reading that a part of the brain named amygdala is a very important for remembering something.
It's some kind of activator that tells the memory part of the brain: "This is important."

If you read something interesting, you will remember it.
If you talk to someone interesting, you will remember him, his name and what you talked about.

2. Trust

I understand how the PR Whole Mind System works and I know that it works.
But I still don't trust it.
I always fall back to my conventional reading behaviours.
When I SR, I think something like: "It's just skimming."

I've worked through books of 200, 300 pages and was able to get all the information out of them in one or two hours.
I've found that the "4 to 11% useful information"-theory to be right.

But I have never felt that I have been traced by my sub-con.
I was just skimming through the books and writing out the useful information.

I'm not able to PR at the moment, but I will be able to do so soon.
It's intersting for me to analyse my mistakes and self interferences during learning this system.
It tells me a lot about myself.
I'm patient, I'm improving and I will be able to PR, I just need a bit longer than others do.


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Hi Korsakow.

Tell me about your process when you superread.

How many seconds do you spend on a page when you superread?

When you are skimming you are reading some aren't you?

When you superread you are going way too fast to read you are going way too quickly to read, with skimming you are doing some reading whereas with superreading you are going way too fast you do not have time to read.

The only reading involved with superreading is when you dip to read a sentence or two.

Sometimes people think they are superreading when they are not superreading.

Please describe your process when you superread.

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Hi photoread4me,

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Please describe your process when you superread.




I thought SRing and skimming to be the same.

I stopped the time and it takes eight to nine seconds per page.
I see every word but I'm going too fast for my brain to be able to create images or meanings from the words.

If I think about it, it could be that I am SR at the beginning of activating but unconsciously slow down after a few pages so that my brain becomes able to make a sense of the content.

I'm going to examine this theory by SRing hundred pages and observing myself, if I slow down.


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Hi Korsakow.

Please give me your purpose when you were superreading at nine seconds a page. What were you looking for? What was the question you wanted answered?

If you are superreading at nine seconds a page but do not know what question you want answered you will have problems activating.

So i guess my question is when you were superreading did you have a specific question in mind that you wanted answered or were you just trying to practice the process of superreading but had no question that you wanted answered.

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Hi photoread4me,

When you first asked me at which speed I SR, I just SRed a few pages without having any questions in mind.

I now SR the first hundred pages of a book called Mind Games - The Aging Brain and how to keep it healthy.

I formed my MP questions of chapter titles and subheadings.

I made the following observations:

1. I get slower after a few pages and need about 15 seconds per page

2. I start subvocalizing words or phrases as I get slower (what I also unfortunately do when I read conventionally)

3. I lack of trust that my MP-questions will be answered in the following pages

4. I doubt that I formulate my MP-questions the right way, hindering the book to answer me

5. I soon recognized that the book had lots of interesting information. One chapter (about how the brain works) I wanted to read entirely, while with other chapters I recognized that there was interesting information that didn't fit my MP question and I got confused, if I should change my question or not.

If SRing is about letting the sub-con trace you, I should block or distract my consciousness from interferring?
While PRing I do this through chanting, but if I chant during SRing I don't have my MP-question in mind.
So what can I do about this?

Could you tell me how you activate and what you have in mind during activating?


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Hi Korsakow.

Not having a question you want answered while superreading is a waste of time this is why you are having problems activating. Always have a question in mind that you want answered while superreading. Your question should be related closely to your purpose.

Superreading is a conscious activity you do not want to block the conscious mind when you are doing a conscious activity.

Do not chant while superreading. Chant when you photoread. Silently chant the relax when photoreading.

Have your question in mind when superreading.

Keep your mind-probing questions to a maximum of 3 mind-probing questions when superreading.

Why do you need this information from the book the aging brain and how to keep it healthy how are you going to use this information from the book? That is your purpose right there why you need the information from the book and what you will do with the information from the book, how you will use the information from the book.


15 seconds a page is ok but if you find yourself sub-vocalizing you are going too slow pick up the pace. When you superread you are going too fast to subvocalize.

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Hi Korsakow.

I forgot to mention this on the previous post so i will mention it now. Use your affirmations. I think that is why Paul Scheele the creator of photoreading has included them. Many times our minds are constantly being challenged in a somewhat negative way.For example "this will never work!" "I am no good at math". "This subject is hard!". It becomes a affirmation that turns into a self-fullfilling prophecy.

Use the affirmations as a way of having your mind work for you not against you.

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Hi Photoread4me,

I had already commented your post yesterday, but it seems to got lost for some reason.
Whatever.

To get to know, if activating is my real problem or if there's some interferences in the steps before I made a simple test today.
I took a short-story collection by Raymond Chandler I had PRed yesterday and simply looked for the words "man" and "he".

So I SR a story (without subvocalizing) and the only words I read, recognize from the hundreds of words are "man" and "he".
Sometimes it was also a "she" or "the" as they contain the word "he", but what's really important is that I finally had a sense of achievement.

I only wonder how soft, subtle it is.
Maybe I was able to activate the whole time, but as it was so gentle I ignored it or regarded it as conincidence.

Weeks wasted . . .

I'll build up my confidence in activation with my "word searching and finding"-technique in the next days and then go on with real activation.

Thank you very much for your responsiveness and advice, Photoread4me.
It came at the right time.
I was about to give up PR (at least for a while).


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