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I wonder, when you activate. Can you activate withoud dipping/rapid reading and that stuff ? I mean after photoreading is it possible to activate without opening the book again ? Mind maps ?

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yep. PhotoRead and then go use the information.

If software manual; use the software
If a story; talk to someone about it, who has also read the story
If a text book; then answer the questions, take a quiz or challenge the course by taking the test.

Find a way to challenge with purpose the knowing and use of the subject.

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 Originally Posted By: Smoku
I wonder, when you activate. Can you activate withoud dipping/rapid reading and that stuff ? I mean after photoreading is it possible to activate without opening the book again ? Mind maps ?


What you are asking about is called spontaneous activation. Yes it does happen. It's spontaneous and for most books and subjects we're not prepared to wait and see it happen.

To improve your chances of experiencing spontaneous activation PhotoRead 3 to 10 books a day for a couple of months.

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those are quite confusing answers because they are rather different. So you say that after photoreading step i cant activate through just doing a mind map or taking a test. You say i need to actually read the text conscious way before making mind maps and before answering questions etc. ?

Thats very confusing because from what ive read here lots of people say about activation without super reading the text again like in the "i had to showoff my photoreading skills" thread. Also the book says about photoreading the book in 20 minutes. So whole process of acquiring the information from the book may actually take not 20 minutes but 3-4 hours (super reading) Alex ?

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 Originally Posted By: Smoku
those are quite confusing answers because they are rather different. So you say that after photoreading step i cant activate through just doing a mind map or taking a test. You say i need to actually read the text conscious way before making mind maps and before answering questions etc. ?


The PhotoReading system allows you to get your reading done 3 to 10 times faster when you apply all the steps of the system. If you want conscious comprehension you need to activate. Spontaneous activation happens at random. It's explained in the book on the chapter called Activation.

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Thats very confusing because from what ive read here lots of people say about activation without super reading the text again like in the "i had to showoff my photoreading skills" thread.

Yes skilled because he uses the system and challenged himself. It didn't matter to him if it worked. He expected it to but had no way of knowing until he tried it. And I can bet that he has probably PhotoRead many many books. Probably equal to 3 to 10 books a day for a couple of months.

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Also the book says about photoreading the book in 20 minutes. So whole process of acquiring the information from the book may actually take not 20 minutes but 3-4 hours (super reading) Alex ?


Again an experienced PhotoReader who has done 3 to 10 books a day or more. Understands purpose and mind probing questions.

I've done it too. Still Spontaneous activation is spontaneous. It may or may not happen. If you want to experience it happening increase your chances by PhotoReading 3 to 10 books a day for a couple of months and activate one book a week fully until that book gels. Then you have a higher chance of experiencing spontaneous activation.

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Hi Alex,

When you say " PR 3-10 books a day", do you mean just applying the PR step of the whole system? Activating 10 books a day is really time consuming.

Moreover, I have some problems in superreading and dipping. I found it hard to resist the temptation of overdipping. When I speed up scanning down through the center of the page, I hardly recongise anything. In the course manual, Paul said we can superread a passage (or a chaper) several times, but I am quite confused with the purpose of each flow. Is that:
First time: to notice the section you are interested in;
Secnd time: dip into the section ?

I found myself overdip because I try to superead and dip at the same time. Is that a wrong approach?

Finally, I activated and mindmapped a book with 300 pages recently. Yet, I used 5 sheets of A4 for the mindmap. Am I doing too much?

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Hey mylam,

You only apply the photoreading step to the ten books each day, and activate at least one of them every week. Activating more would be better, of course, but just make sure it's at least one.

When you super read, you're not looking for what's going on on the page, but rather in your head. You shouldn't be reading when super reading, but instead looking for thoughts, or clues as to when to start dipping.

What photoreading does is it exposes the whole book to your other than conscious mind, so that your conscious mind may then be guided by the unconscious mind to where the information you want is in the book. When you're super reading, you're simply looking for those places.

You super read and dip a book more than once because it's very possible that you miss a cue that told you to dip into a certain section in the book. By going over the book again, you will most likely pick up on that cue, and you'll find the information you want.

Try to keep mind maps simple. Use small pictures, abbreviations, and you don't have to make it look pretty. Just keep it short and simple, and you should be fine, as long as you know what you're writing about. No complete sentences, either.


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I found it hard to resist the temptation of overdipping. When I speed up scanning down through the center of the page, I hardly recongise anything.


That's perfectly normal. And it's why you have a mind probing question.

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Is that:
First time: to notice the section you are interested in;
Secnd time: dip into the section ?


Each time it is to answer mind probing questions. You may look at the same page again when you have another question. So with truly active activation you're looking at the page more than once to answer questions. Look at page 60 of the 4th edition of the PhotoReading book and notice the authors train of thoughts. That helps you to connect with the way an author thinks when. So in one page or paragraph the author can, talk about a problem and explain why it is a problem. It depends only on your purpose.

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Finally, I activated and mindmapped a book with 300 pages recently. Yet, I used 5 sheets of A4 for the mindmap. Am I doing too much?
by my estimation no you're not doing too much many will do a 300 page book on 2 or three A3 pages so working in a smaller format it's probable you would use twice as many.

The person to check in with is yourself. Would you like to do less next time? Or is that fine? How is it when you review the mind maps? Ultimately how useful are the mind maps to you?

AlexK


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