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#6797 10/26/03 05:51 PM
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Hello Everyone,
My question is, "Has anyone on this forum ever experienced a violent physical reaction to listening to any of the new technology that facilitates self-growth?"

Example: I am using CenterPointe's Awakening Prologue and some of the paralimilal tapes from LearningStrategies. I have been using the AWP for many months now and just recently have been using the paraliminals. Last night, I decided to do the Standing yoga pose (back against the wall) while listening to AWP to help open up all the channels of energy that could possibly be blocked while lounging in my LazyBoy. Before track one was over, I was getting flushed, beades of sweat were pouring from my forhead, dizziness, and a couple times near passing out, and then I began experiencing nausea. By the time track two rolled around, I had to sit down, back against the wall. When I got to the floor, still with the headphones on, I started the dry-heaves and quickly searched for a container to vomit in which is exactly what I did.

Then today, during and after listening to "Anxiety Free" both sides, I began to experience that nauseau again, though not to the same extent and this time I was parked in my LazyBoy.

My thoughts and feeling are that something deep in my unconscious is being rapidly brought to the surface in a way that my body is responding to violently. I have no notions on what this could be but I think it is some healing process. It just is something that maybe my preconscious or whatever mind views as traumatic or sickening. Could it be deeply buried fear that is being accessed? I was experiencing feelings of terror before the real physical symptoms I just mentioned started to manifest and a couple times I had to open my eyes breifly to check to see if I was not alone. I was experiencing the kind of terror that horror movies try to illicit in their viewers. I was tempted to jerk the headphones off and check the house for intruders. Are there any thoughts out there about this or similar experiences?

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Hi LukeRoy

How many horror movies have you seen in the last 12 months? Remember gigo (garbage in - garbage out). If it's that I would advise you to avoid horror or violent movies.

I had a very different but similar experience last night and today. About a week ago I programmed in a belief that I release all negative emotion, anger, resentment and tension in my dreams when I'm sleeping. I have been having horrific dreams some days since. Last night I had especially scary dreams. Today I'm nauseas and dizzy. I also know it is possible for the content of dreams to leak into the day so I'm going to build a block against this happening in future by installing another belief, to safe guard against this.

Although it's a different experience, the fear, nausea and dizziness sound similar. However mine was not nearly as intense as yours.

I don't know if what I'm doing is a good idea with my dreams. Maybe someone could shed some more light on release methods, to rid oneself of such strong fears etc, I know the sedona method is popular.

If you get desperate you could buy dolomite supplements, which are very calming, using only as advised.

One belief/affirmation that could help at the worst of times is "I am safe and secure".

Here's hoping you can advance with strength through these stages of your growth.

Kind Regards
Grant






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Lukeroy,

Well, your unconscious certainly knows what is going on. Maybe you could ask it what is going on? If it is an important process for you, and you are cool with what is going on (if it's some kind of release), then you can certainly do whatever you need to do to process things out.

You can certainly make requests of your unconscious mind ... maybe that it take things slower, a little at a time rather than all at once.

There is a strong emphasis in the tapes about maintaining a good state, establishing safety anchors.

Try asking if you could process the information from a dissociated point of view (that is, watching the experience happen over there rather than being in it).

It sounds to me like your body is releasing stuff ... but what the hell do I know.







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Thanks for the replys so far. I don't particularly like horror films but have seen my share in younger years. Went to see "Kill Bill" a couple weeks ago but walked out in the first 10 minutes. Couldn't take the violence. Ever since I have been doing AWP, I am hypersensitive to violence on the screen. I think that is a good thing. I am un-numbing(new word) to the crap that we've been fed all of our lives, I think.

I keep thinking this is old stuff but I will take the suggestions to heart. More thoughts welcome.

I am managing the feelings ok, just don't like'em.

Thanks again for your input Grant and Babayada






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I was at a retreat a few years back and it was going around that one of the participants had gotten exactly what he had asked for -- and some found it amusing.

It went like this. He did a sweat lodge and asked for purification, to have the old go out and make way for the new. HOWEVER, he forgot to be specific ... and he not only got sick to his stomach a bit later, but had - how do I say this politely - the runs for the rest of the week. Yep, he got purified all right!

SO - I'm thinking that you forgot the safety measusres, and like was said above, be sure to tell yourself that you are safe and secure, and that nothing bad will happen to you. (or nothing more will). And it could very well be that you reacting to old violence stimili. Like you said, all the garbage we've been fed all our lives.

Good luck to you. Remember we're all here for each other, so check back in, okay?

Oh - I've had an unusual "awakening" this past week with paraliminals -- I think that's what I've tracked it down to. A very good wake-up call, but not at all what I thought I had been asking for. Sometimes "something" knows what's best for us.

*A* fellow traveler






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I don't know the Centre Point material at all.

However, I know that in Spring Forest Qigong it is recommended that if different energy systems are going to be used they should be used in different parts of the day. My way of viewing this is that Yoga is an energy system, and all mind systems are too.

Also recommended is that if multiple paraliminals are being listened to then you should allow at least 20 minutes between. I suspect that this is a benefit issue and not different energy system.
Let your intuition guide you, is my best recommendation.

You are perfection.
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Take it easy folks, Could simply be the effects of the solar storm. Seriously. It seems that the storm is capable of affecting power and nagivation equipment (magnetic and electictical system) some research has taken place to show that it can affect the human body too. I got some information about it when they mentioned the solar flare/storm on TV warning about the possibiliy of problems when the flare hit earth 2 to 3 days later. There was a major flare on the 22nd and whilst I have no idea how long they expect the effect to last. The problems you've experience may just be because as a result of your meditations etc you are more sensitive to the storm.

Wait a few more days and see

Alex







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