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Hi, I noticed during the qigong exercises that deep breathing is taught, though especially during the Microcosmic Orbit, there is some hyperventilation going on.

Now for those of you who dont know, hyperventilation will reduce the oxygen in your cells. This happens because the more we expell Co2 the higher the affinity for oxygen the hemoglobin has and basically the hemoglobin doesnt release enough oxygen. Also the more we expell Co2 it causes major vasoconstriction causing oxygen levels to drop off in the body.

I was seriously wondering why dear Chunyi doesnt teach breath holding (taught in yoga) ((mind you REAL yoga))

I am also seriously thinking that maybe some or even most of the side effects being had in some people doing SFQ is because they are already low tissue oxygen and they arent exercising or breath holding enough so the extra breathing in the exercises is just depleting their cellular oxygen more.

Ive noticed some good effects from the qigong but if I go for a few days doing the extra ventilation and no breath holding I notice I start to feel like a sore throat is coming on and my heart feel inflamed and I get more palpitations. (my heart is my big problem area)

Thats all.

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Aloha DavidStone,

Thank you for your post.

Yes, there are a lot of things going on physiologically when breathing, and a lot of breathing methods used in different systems - real or not wink for different purposes.

That's why Master Lin recommends students just breath in a relaxed, even manner while they learn their exercises and sitting meditations. Later, they can practice the skin, reverse breathing in the course a couple times at the beginning of their exercises or meditation. You definitely don't want to be in your head about doing the breathing "right," as one's breath will tend to constrict, rather ebb and flow as it naturally would.

One of the colleagues Learning Strategies is working with, talks about the importance of a held breath after the exhale. Master Lin, would most likely smile, read your energy, thank you for bringing that up to him, and say that in his and his teacher's experience, he has found the Taoist skin and reverse breathing to make the biggest shift in opening up blockage and healing.

The Small Universe is just a guide, as everyone's breath is different. Some think the sounds/breath are too long, others too short. One can find themselves with a breath hold towards the end of the sounds or silence, and others that need it, can take another breath if needed, stay at the same spot if they feel the need, or do the meditation on their own.


Much Love,

Shawn

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Thank you for your reply, very interesting. I can do reverse breathing he talks about and find it very easy and natural and powerful, but i still think that hyperventalition is bad, and breath holding is good, simply because its scientifcally proven to hyperoxygenate the body (co2 causes o2 to be released from blood cells into tissues, thereby breath holding INCREASES oxygen up to the point of 75% blood o2 saturation when the effects reverse.)

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Dear DavidStone,

I'm glad we are both in agreement that hyperventilating isn't optimal, and breath holding can be beneficial.

I would venture to say that when one goes deep into their mediation and the emptiness, that a natural pause or non exhale/inhale happens. Of course it would need to be monitored by a machine, since as soon as you would bring attention to it, the subject/your breath would change.

Much Love,

Shawn


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