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Hey all,

Im really interested in doing meditation and am about to enlist in a 10 day meditation retreat called vipassana. My question is, ive noticed hundreds of these sites claiming to have the technology to produce brain states and is suppose to be better than traditional meditation, im a little skeptikle of this and suprise suprise they all want money. So i just wanted to get some advise on what yall think is the better option? I have an anxiety disorder and am looking for something to relieve some tension. What is yall opinion? Cheers!!

Hi
I have been studying and using trance states personaly and professionaly since teh early 80., and started meditating in the early 70s.

Part of my study has been the use and development of entrainment methods, like the ones you have seen advertised. These technologies can work, but I can not speak for the quality of most of them.

Ultimately it does not realy matter if you choose to meditate formaly,or use entrainment technology. Some of these technologies are contraindicated for people with epilipsy and some other disorders, so if that is you , get professional advice first.

Counseling is very useful. So is hypnotherapy. These recordings are terrific, I am a big fan professionaly and personaly. Try Anxiety Free, Self Esteem Supercharger, Belief, etc.

Entrainment, if it is well done, is a fast way to get to useful states. Vipasana is a long and arduous road, and is religeous too. Spiritual practices have been proven to help people with their physical and metal health! That has to be your own inner choice.

Entrainment technologies that I have come to respect include Centrepointe (used in the paraliminal recordings), Anna Wise, Jeffrey Thompson, and some of Robert Monroe, though he gets pretty "far out" for me alot of the time.... I also like Alpha Stim for some things, especialy drug addiction.

Whichever method you choose, be prepared to give it time, the real benefits come from consistent use over time. (Exception is hypnotherapy, it is solution oriented and can achive alot in relatively short time, ie days-months compared to years-decades)

SOrry I cant choose for you, I like them all for different reasons. But here is some information that hopefuly will help you to make your own choice Go with a good company if you choose entrainement.

vitaman

Dear Defcon83,

I've never tried any of the technical avenues to meditation because I've used one that works well for me--when I use it.

Years ago, I read a book by Cheri Huber, an American Zen Buddist nun, called "How To Get From Where You Are to Where You Want To Be." In it, she described discovering a simple form of meditation that, for her, was so calming, it rid her of many, many negative patterns. I recommend the book (you can get it from Amazon and lots of other places), and you might try the simple exercise she recommends. I have, and it works every time so long as I keep it up for at least five minutes, preferably more. The following is what I do. It's probably something of a modification of her method which, I think, may be simpler still. (It really has been a while since I read the book. )

Sit or lie down and get comfortable. (You can do this anywhere, even if you're driving--Huber tells an amazing story about her own experience with that--although I'd recommend trying it first in a quiet, safe and stationary place.) Breath in through your nose very gently. Don't try to breath in hard or for a really long breath, just notice yourself inhaling. Mentally count "one". Exhale, also gently, not forcing it at all. Inhale and exhale like this again and again, mentally counting each inhalation, until you get to "ten", then start over at "one". When thoughts cross your mind, notice each one as if it were a bird flying across the sky, like, "Oh, hmm, there it goes", and let them fly away.

I told you it was simple. Key for me is to keep it up. A 10-minute session makes me feel both calm and energized.

Good luck!

Hi Grant
Whatever choice you make that fits for you is good. Whether you stick to a religious model, method, or theology, choose a "wildman" aproach, or mysticism, as long as it fits your true integrity it is good.

I had a GF long ago who practices Vipasana. It realy is great for her, and she has a wonderful spirit. My favorite prof follows Islam, and he has a beautiful spirit too. I am an eclectic, and love all of the paths to spirit /God, whatever you wish to call it, though I also do not like to lock into only one system...

Having a spiritual awareness, honoring and developing this part of your life is what is important, not the path...as long as it resonates for you, great!

I am glad you have your wildman aproach! I am always happy to know that people have a spiritual life.