Posted By: Betsemes Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/13/02 01:27 PM
I'm preparing for my first Photoreading / Direct Learning session. According to the tape, I need 5 books: three on the subject I want to learn and two on indirectly related subjects.

I want to Direct Learn about chess, so I picked up these books:


  1. "Como Ganar en el Ajedrez (How to Win in Chess)"
  2. "Los Errores Mas Frecuentes en el Ajedrez (the Most Common Errors in Chess)"
  3. "El Gran Libro del Ajedrez (The Great Book of Chess)", by Natale Ramini
  4. "Iniciacion Al Bridge (Getting Started at Bridge)", by Lorenzo Ponce Sala
  5. "Despertando al Gigante Interior (Awaken the Giant Within)", by Anthony Robbins

Chess is a strategy game, so I guess that related books should have something to do with strategies. Book D is about a card game, I think that a card game has to do with strategies. Book E is more indirect than D. It is about personal growing. I guessed that personal growing has something to do with strategy too, but I picked up that book because I failed to get a politics or business book. Are my choices OK?





Posted By: huttog Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/13/02 02:11 PM
Those choices will work fine. So far since starting GC, I've direct learned from about 20 books on sales/communication/persuasion.

I just hop on over to the library for about 20-30 minutes and photoread a couple times a week.

After you do this, you'll be less concerned with whether or not the specific books you've chosen are ideal or not, since you can learn from most books.

Good luck.

George





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/22/02 02:01 PM
At last since May 13 I had time for this. I have some more questions.

If I may want to further expand on the subject I'm Direct Learning; How may I do it? Just repeat the process with a few more advanced books?

If I have previously read books (in the usual way), may I photoread them for Direct Learning? Does that work?

Thanks for your help.





Posted By: Hel Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/22/02 02:03 PM
You can PR as many books as many times as you want.





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/23/02 05:59 AM
If I have previously read books (in the usual way), may I photoread them for Direct Learning? Does that work?





Posted By: AlexK Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/23/02 06:28 AM
I have reason to believe that it should work. When you read the book normally half the information doesn't really become locked into the deeper mind... thats why we can read a book years later and discover stuff in it we read but never used.

Since Photoreading puts the book into the inner mind it is more useful to us and we absorbed more of the information inwardly.

Since it takes only a few minutes to Photoread a book I'd use it in a direct learning project too. It becomes one amongst many so why excude it just because because I know 'some' of the stuff consciously? The is probably more in the book that is useful than what I had taken from the book consciously.I think it is a case of putting more information from more books into our mind in a shorter time frame that makes direct learning so productive.

I think it would be hard to prove whether or not my theory is correct. I am sure that you have nothing to lose by adding books that you have already read to your Direct Learning application.

Alex





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 05:18 AM
My question addresses a concern of mine regarding Paul's comment about "overpreviewing" the book before PRing it. He says that if we preview it too much, it will shut down the internal processing of it. I know that previewing it in order to PR it and have read it previously are not the same thing, so I just want to ask if having read it previously has any impact in the PR/DL procedure (i.e. interferes in the inner mind's processing task).





Posted By: AlexK Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 07:04 AM
Skip the preview since you've already read it you have a general idea of what the book is about. Since you've most probably forgotton consciously most of the book anyway why should it have any impact. When direct learning you need not limit yourself just to five books you can include it with others you haven't read.

I think Pauls point about previewing too much just before doing the direct learning exercise... is becoming concerned if we can absorb it all. Worrying about what we think we need to know etc. Creating barriers to absorbing the information before you start.

Now if you are worried that including that book will have a negative impact on the direct learning process you may as well exclude it. The worry or concern you are creating will be exactly the problem you are looking for. A self fulfilling prophecy.

Personally I think if you keep an open mind about it just include it amongst the others you will still absorb the beneficial information form it.

Rather than worry about it, whether you're doing it right or including a book you've already read is going to work (if anything it might not work for that book but the others would still kick in). Play with it, take the attitude of lets see what will happen if? Don't worry if you don't get it perfectly right the first time. With the goals you have in mind I would hardly stop at 5 books, 5 books to a session yes but on the subject? Afterall if you didn't have the direct learning technique you'd have to do it the old fashioned way, which takes longer.

Worry if you do it right...you'll see the results of your worry.

Play, see what happens ... you learn what works and shrug off what doesn't but everything you discover that works for you becomes a gem that you own.

My suggestion, don't worry about it just try it and see. You are a unique being so only you can really tell what works for you.

Alex





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 01:19 PM
Alex,
One more question. Is it possible/effective to do several DL sessions successively (spanning for a few days) and then stop to let the inner mind to process it? How often you get over the same subject you are learning from?





Posted By: AlexK Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 06:54 PM
I think it depends on the individual and how many books they really want to direct learn from.

I would look at putting in some ground rules for myself. Like applying DL to say 20 books over 4 days and then letting it go for 4 weeks and see what happens.

Since I want the DL experience to be productive I would avoid going to the extremes. (eg DL for 2 weeks and then not giving it enough time to let it happen.) In my opinion that would be counter productive creating an anxiety state. Personally I think 4 days would be the most I would do and then let it go for 4 weeks. My reason for selecting 4 days as the maximum is basicly because I wouldn't expect to spend much more than 4 days learning a single topic in a seminar and after 4 days I know from experience my mind is going ... all right already let me go and try it out. So for me it counter would productive to keep loading more of the same stuff on the brain. Probably I would realise when I have had enough anyway and stop when I feel I need to let it happen

This will be a personal thing and probably depend on topic, desire, expectations and goals. Sometimes 1 day 5 books will be enough, sometimes we want more. The most important part is stopping to let the inner mind process it. Another reason for my selecting 4 days as a sort of maximum for a DL project is I want to be able to see results... I don't think much starts happening until you've actually let go and let the inner mind take over. If you are continuously DL when does the inner mind get to take over?

In short yes I believe you can DL from a number of books aver a few days and then let it go and see what happens.

Alex





Posted By: Margaret Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 08:28 PM
DL is more effective if you use New Option Generator or visualizing your time line.

It's best results come when you are in a situation and you find yourself doing something you suddenly realize you had not studied. Answering questions in class, playing a sport better. For me, i suddenly started doing relaxation exercises. It took me awhile before i realized that i was doing stuff i had not studied. I went back to the library and checked out the books i had PhR on stress reduction. I did find the exercises there.

DL---is subtle if you are not in situations that bring it out....like a classroom or a work situation.







Posted By: Margaret Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 08:30 PM
There are some great testimonials on this DF for DL.





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/29/02 08:51 PM
Thank you all. I think I have what I need for now.





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/30/02 02:10 PM
Margaret,
How do you use New Option Generator with DL? Are you referring to the paraliminal tape or to the New Option Generator procedure described in the Natural Brilliance book?





Posted By: Margaret Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 05/30/02 07:30 PM
New Option Generator is the paraliminal of the New Option Generator in the NB book. Nice short tape w/ the A side being used for release and the B for the book thing.

So you just PhR all the books you want to experience direct learning from. Then use side B of the NOG paraliminal to activate what you PhR.

Direct Learning has to do w/ activating via visualization. I wanted to rid my mind/body from stress b/c i noticed that i had tension in my shoulders when i PhR. I PhR all the books in the library on stress. Then i did the visualization exercise in the NB book. Lastly, i just went on w/ my life. Then one night i finally noticed that i was moving my head in a way that really relaxed my neck and shoulders. I thought, where did i learn this? Went back to the library and looked thru the books i'd PhR & the exercise was there.

So, if you are PhRing for DL in an area of some particular thing you want to develop, it is part of the procedure to visualize the time line thing. I eventually purchased the NOG tape & like it very much...both sides.

If you are PhRing a text book for school, then incubating it and setting an intention is enuff b/c class discussion will probably activate your knowledge spontaneously.

hope this is helpful to you





Posted By: Betsemes Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/03/02 02:51 PM
Thanks Margaret,
I'm learning the LS stuff very slowly, first because I'm somehow impatient and I want to read some stuff at the same time with the courses. Second, I have many responsibilities at this time and have very few time left. Something I just do everyday is my h/s session, the remaining stuff is done in a slower pace.

I have the NB course, but I just did the tapes part entirely. I read the book once and never practiced the rest of it. I have almost all the paraliminals, the MO, the 4powers, GC, and just today I responded to an offer I have been waiting for a long time: the photoreading course. I just have gotten all of them whenever LS extends me a special offer and my PR offer at last was extended to me, then I immediately ordered the course at a discount. Maybe, I will suspend the GC to complete the PR course first. I have saved a lot of money by purchasing all courses at a discount; it pays (I also paid for the CRI program at a special discount), but at the cost of having to delay maybe the most important ones.

I may be impatient for many things, but can wait patiently for this.





Posted By: muskateer Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/03/02 08:42 PM
Question for Huttog:

I specifically purchased GC for it's Direct Learning content. I happen to be in sales also, but have not completed my search for the right set of books to direct learn.

What has your concrete experience been with
your sales production after direct learning your set of books?

This question is open to anyone who cares to respond with their direct lerning experience. Regardless of their area of interest.

My success or not in this area will be a majot factor in my decision to keep or return GC. Thanks.





Posted By: huttog Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/06/02 01:11 AM
Muskateer:

I have been selling cars now for a grand total of 2.5 weeks. I have never sold anything before in my life.

There were 3 other people with me in my training class that lasted for one week.

I have sold double the average of the those three.

My sales manager has told me he sees great potential in me and is making me his project to sell 20 cars per month (equal to 120k per year)

Customers have told me I am the nicest salesman they have ever met.

I have probably photoread/direct learned about 20 or 30 books on sales.

I you believe it will work, it will.
If you wait to see proof before you believe, it won't.

George







Posted By: muskateer Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/08/02 06:57 AM

George:
Thanks for your response. Wow. You are a selling newbie aren't you? :-) Good luck to you, but it looks like you won't need too much luck. You are off to a great start. I'm certain your DL efforts have helped greatly.

However, don't discount your personality. Some people have a personality that naturally lends itself to sales. Perhaps
you have such a personality.

I have been in sales for 21 years. Twenty one years in life insurance. Eight of those years I was a stock broker. Most of what I was taught no longer works. Or at least it doesn't work well. People are a lot
more worldly (thanks to the internet and 24 hour news channels), so the age old manipulation ploys seldom work now.

I was never comfortable using that stuff anyway, as I am basically a very honest and straight up person. I like selling when all persons involved win.

We do have something in commom. We are both in high turnover, low prestige (in the public's eye) industries. If you can imagine this, the insurance industry sales force has
an about eighty percent turnover about every four years!

When I was younger and hanging out in clubs,
no girl was ever impressed when I said I sold
life insurance. When I said I was a stock broker...BIG IMPRESSION!

I'm sure direct learning from good books
on sales will assist you strongly in
not only surviving, but to trive in an occupation that few do.

I wish the DL process was available when I was just starting out. I would have made a lot more money, with a lot less pain...a lot sooner.

I have DL'd six books on selling so far recently. I took what someone on this list suggested and used the New Option Generator tape side B to lock in activation. Due to a car wreck I was in, I haven't been working. However, I'm sure when I hit the streets and get in front of prospects and clients again, I'll notice DL'd selling behaviors and attitudes come forth in my communications.

Robert


quote:
Originally posted by huttog:
Muskateer:

I have been selling cars now for a grand total of 2.5 weeks. I have never sold anything before in my life.

There were 3 other people with me in my training class that lasted for one week.

I have sold double the average of the those three.

My sales manager has told me he sees great potential in me and is making me his project to sell 20 cars per month (equal to 120k per year)

Customers have told me I am the nicest salesman they have ever met.

I have probably photoread/direct learned about 20 or 30 books on sales.

I you believe it will work, it will.
If you wait to see proof before you believe, it won't.

George








Posted By: huttog Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/08/02 02:31 PM
Muskateer:

High Probability Selling
Jacques Werth

Selling Yourself
Kevin Hogan

Max Persuasion
Maxpersuasion.com (tape series)


George





Posted By: muskateer Re: Photoreading / Direct Learning - 06/08/02 11:34 PM
Huttog:
Thanks. I have both of the books you listed, but did not direct learn them yet. I even have the High Probability Selling tape set.
Save your money. It's just a word for word reading of the book. No extra material.

I have trained with Kenrick Clevelend before,
but it wasn't his MaxPer workshop. Now that he has produced MaxPer II and promises that it's much more powerful than MaxPer original,
I am considering buying it. Of everyone I know who has MaxPer original, they all rave about it.

I just hate that Kenrick hasn't moved into the 21st century yet with his productions by recording them on CD's instead of just cassettes.

Muskateer

quote:
Originally posted by huttog:
Muskateer:

High Probability Selling
Jacques Werth

Selling Yourself
Kevin Hogan

Max Persuasion
Maxpersuasion.com (tape series)


George








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