Listening on mp3 player? - 12/27/06 01:24 PM
Will listening to the paraliminals on my mp3 player have the same effect as listening to the cd?
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/27/06 02:37 PM
Not unless you copy the CD over at a very high bitrate, or better still, preserving the wav format (the draw-back with that being that the files are huge). The paraliminals are in "wav" format, which accomodates the Holosync that has been added to them. When converting to MP3, if the bitrate is too low, you will be destroying the binaural beats that have been inserted on the CD's to assist you into certain states. While Paul's inductions are very good, you will achieve (generally) a more specific state/level of theta or alpha with the aid of the Holosync.
This has been discussed previously (several months ago, before the new forum format was created), and I have not been able to find the previous posts using the search function, which seems not to be working presently. Maybe someone else with more technical skill could explain this better.
Cheers!
Unis
This has been discussed previously (several months ago, before the new forum format was created), and I have not been able to find the previous posts using the search function, which seems not to be working presently. Maybe someone else with more technical skill could explain this better.
Cheers!
Unis
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/27/06 04:11 PM
So if I use a program that allows me to take the Paraliminals from my cd's and onto my computer as a wav file I should get the same effect?
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/27/06 04:27 PM
I'm also curious as to which versions of the holosync is used on the paraliminals i think they have 3 different ones that I saw on their site
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/27/06 05:43 PM
Hi Tonez323:
Yes. Nero or Audacity (which is free) would do the trick.
I think you might be confusing "versions" with different CD's that are received in the "initial" offer at Centerpointe, which is Awakening Prologue plus give-aways of two or three other CD's. Holosync IS basically binaural beat technology, and there is a wide range of how these are used (too technical to go into here). Suffice it to say, that the level of Holosync used on the LSC CD's is tempered specifically for these CD's - and is NOT the same as is used in the progressive levels of the Holosync program, as offered by Centerpointe.
Cheers!
Unis
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So if I use a program that allows me to take the Paraliminals from my cd's and onto my computer as a wav file I should get the same effect?
Yes. Nero or Audacity (which is free) would do the trick.
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I'm also curious as to which versions of the holosync is used on the paraliminals i think they have 3 different ones that I saw on their site
I think you might be confusing "versions" with different CD's that are received in the "initial" offer at Centerpointe, which is Awakening Prologue plus give-aways of two or three other CD's. Holosync IS basically binaural beat technology, and there is a wide range of how these are used (too technical to go into here). Suffice it to say, that the level of Holosync used on the LSC CD's is tempered specifically for these CD's - and is NOT the same as is used in the progressive levels of the Holosync program, as offered by Centerpointe.
Cheers!
Unis
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/28/06 07:05 AM
do you know if the atrac3 compression technology will keep binaural beats in tact if I would add them to my digital media player?
Or can you give me some links to resources about binaural technology and digital formats?
Or can you give me some links to resources about binaural technology and digital formats?
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/29/06 03:23 AM
Lossy compression such as MP3 work by removing certain high and low frequencies and other aspects and artifacts of sound. The lower the bitrate, the more that is removed. Smaller files, lower quality. The binaural beats in Holosync are carried by low frequency sound which will be lost in compression...
Higher bitrates remove less- larger files but higher quality.
I do not know about the atrac3. News to me. There are lossless codecs such as APE but so far they require too much processor power to run on portables and even older desktops. Maybe some day.
If you rip to MP3 at 320 constant bitrate, true stereo, it should be fine.
All of these are Freeware:
Exact Audio Copy is a very good ripper, you will need Blade or Lame-Very good- highly recomended for audiophiles! My favorite.
Another is called FreeRip- very easy to use. I have used it for music but have not tried it with binaural beats, it should work.
Nero is just ok for ripping. Avoid Windows Media Player for this task, it is a good player but a horrible ripper. Havent got much experience with Audacity...
Hope this helps.
vitaman
Higher bitrates remove less- larger files but higher quality.
I do not know about the atrac3. News to me. There are lossless codecs such as APE but so far they require too much processor power to run on portables and even older desktops. Maybe some day.
If you rip to MP3 at 320 constant bitrate, true stereo, it should be fine.
All of these are Freeware:
Exact Audio Copy is a very good ripper, you will need Blade or Lame-Very good- highly recomended for audiophiles! My favorite.
Another is called FreeRip- very easy to use. I have used it for music but have not tried it with binaural beats, it should work.
Nero is just ok for ripping. Avoid Windows Media Player for this task, it is a good player but a horrible ripper. Havent got much experience with Audacity...
Hope this helps.
vitaman
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/29/06 01:23 PM
I listen to my 5 Paraliminals on an MP3 player (Archos Jukebox Recorder 20) converted using Dell's Musicmatch Jukebox, and listen using a pair of Sony "Noise Cancelling" earphones and find a quality experience.
I have experienced positive results without worrying that I have lost any frequencies in the conversion.
I believe that a higher level set of earphones makes a difference, however.
I have experienced positive results without worrying that I have lost any frequencies in the conversion.
I believe that a higher level set of earphones makes a difference, however.
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 12/31/06 04:50 AM
The Holosync soundtrack on the Paraliminals are uniquely created for the Paraliminals and have nothing to do with the Holosync levels.
They contain alpha to theta entrainment that helps deepen the listening experience. a 256 bitrate at VBA is reported to work fine. You can compress more and must expect that the entrainment track will be affected to some degree because most compression systems consider the hum of the entrainment unwanted noise.
Now even if you managed to remove the entrainment entirely the Paraliminals will still work brilliantly. They did before they had the soundtrack added. The entrainment just makes it easier to let go.
Alex
They contain alpha to theta entrainment that helps deepen the listening experience. a 256 bitrate at VBA is reported to work fine. You can compress more and must expect that the entrainment track will be affected to some degree because most compression systems consider the hum of the entrainment unwanted noise.
Now even if you managed to remove the entrainment entirely the Paraliminals will still work brilliantly. They did before they had the soundtrack added. The entrainment just makes it easier to let go.
Alex
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/01/07 05:22 PM
Hi
Consider do a little research into FLAK you will not lose any information in using this file format and the file size are smaller then MP3.
J
Consider do a little research into FLAK you will not lose any information in using this file format and the file size are smaller then MP3.
J
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/02/07 01:06 AM
Hi Jay186
Just wondering- are there players (especialy portables) that can play FLAK? I looked into it and also APE sometime ago, and it looks like a great way to archive or share, but at that time did not see any players that could reliably play them.
I would be quite interested in portables that could handle lossless formats!
vitaman
Just wondering- are there players (especialy portables) that can play FLAK? I looked into it and also APE sometime ago, and it looks like a great way to archive or share, but at that time did not see any players that could reliably play them.
I would be quite interested in portables that could handle lossless formats!
vitaman
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/02/07 01:29 PM
Hi
Check out winamp.com and windows media player 11, Plays FLAK yet you have to go into the in the file extensions in the plug ins. for the windows player.11.
J
Check out winamp.com and windows media player 11, Plays FLAK yet you have to go into the in the file extensions in the plug ins. for the windows player.11.
J
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/08/07 02:05 PM
Hi tonez323
I use an iPod with iTunes (PC) and have converted all my Paraliminals to MP3 through iTunes. The Holosync frequencies etc are all totally intact and they sound great.
You can set up iTunes to automatically convert to MP3.
As mentioned in previous posts, the highest bitrate (320) will maintain the
full quality.
If you use or plan to use iTunes the way to set it up to convert to MP3 is
as follows:
iTunes > Preferences > Import using MP3 Encoder
Setting > Custom > Stereo Bitrate: 320 kbps
Quality: Highest, Sample Rate: Auto
Channels: Stereo, Stereo Mode: Joint Stereo
Put a check in 'Smart Encoding' and uncheck 'Filter Frequencies
Below 10Hz' > Click OK and all is done
Now what I do is insert the Paraliminal CD and when you can see the tracks in the iTunes window select them and go up to > Advanced and down
to > Convert selection to MP3. It will take a minute or two for the tracks to convert and then it will save the new mp3s automatically to a folder on your comp.
Once this is finished I also use a music file joiner to combined each of the 4 files from both sections (A or B) into one complete file so as not to add confusion once they are on my iPod. They are all saved alphabetically as complete mp3s. I have also done the same with Sonic Access.
The program that I use to join the individual mp3 files is called 'MP3 Splitter Joiner'. Its simple to use and works a treat.
Whatever way you use to convert your files I hope that It works good for you.
Simon
I use an iPod with iTunes (PC) and have converted all my Paraliminals to MP3 through iTunes. The Holosync frequencies etc are all totally intact and they sound great.
You can set up iTunes to automatically convert to MP3.
As mentioned in previous posts, the highest bitrate (320) will maintain the
full quality.
If you use or plan to use iTunes the way to set it up to convert to MP3 is
as follows:
iTunes > Preferences > Import using MP3 Encoder
Setting > Custom > Stereo Bitrate: 320 kbps
Quality: Highest, Sample Rate: Auto
Channels: Stereo, Stereo Mode: Joint Stereo
Put a check in 'Smart Encoding' and uncheck 'Filter Frequencies
Below 10Hz' > Click OK and all is done
Now what I do is insert the Paraliminal CD and when you can see the tracks in the iTunes window select them and go up to > Advanced and down
to > Convert selection to MP3. It will take a minute or two for the tracks to convert and then it will save the new mp3s automatically to a folder on your comp.
Once this is finished I also use a music file joiner to combined each of the 4 files from both sections (A or B) into one complete file so as not to add confusion once they are on my iPod. They are all saved alphabetically as complete mp3s. I have also done the same with Sonic Access.
The program that I use to join the individual mp3 files is called 'MP3 Splitter Joiner'. Its simple to use and works a treat.
Whatever way you use to convert your files I hope that It works good for you.
Simon
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/09/07 01:17 PM
HI SiMarsh
I dont have a Pod- but those I know who do like the conversion quality.
A note to those who might be interested in saving a step- FreeRip has a function where you can select multiple tracks and rip them as one single MP3 file. Handy for paraliminals.
vitaman
I dont have a Pod- but those I know who do like the conversion quality.
A note to those who might be interested in saving a step- FreeRip has a function where you can select multiple tracks and rip them as one single MP3 file. Handy for paraliminals.
vitaman
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 01/09/07 01:21 PM
HI Jaye
Thanks for the info. I am realy curious about *portables* that could handle these formats though...Nice to see more desktop apps that can handle lossless compression formats.
vitaman
Thanks for the info. I am realy curious about *portables* that could handle these formats though...Nice to see more desktop apps that can handle lossless compression formats.
vitaman
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 03/20/07 06:05 PM
Does this mean that it is better to get iTunes to convert to mp3 before downloading to the iPod rather than use the normal synchronisation that you get between i Tunes anf the iPod?
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 03/30/07 02:30 PM
Yes' iTunes loses less than standard MP3 compression. I suggest you listen to the CD then listen to your iPod recording. If it is just as good and easy to relax to then you're done. If it not as good delete and try less compression. The file size is still close to 100 meg for the reported best quality and results.
Alex
Alex
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 04/17/07 04:09 PM
I just imported the entire paraliminal library into iTunes at 192 VBR AAC and I can hear the entrainment just fine. I'll probably do the same thing with Sonic Access today and see how that sounds. I suspect I'll have the same results.
Brendon
Brendon
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 04/27/07 01:23 PM
Sonic Access uses different entrainment frequencies so it will be interesting to know how you go.
Alex
Alex
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 05/12/07 02:29 PM
The Sonic Access audio sounds fine at that bitrate!
Brendon
Brendon
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 05/13/07 03:58 PM
vita-man,
The COWON iAudio players (Jetaudio software) can convert a wide variety of audio files to FLAC. I bought the iAudio U3 specifically for the paraliminals, the sound quality is awesome. I haven't yet listened to the CD files to compare them to my ripped FLAC versions, but the Paraliminal effect seems to be working just fine on me.
The COWON iAudio players (Jetaudio software) can convert a wide variety of audio files to FLAC. I bought the iAudio U3 specifically for the paraliminals, the sound quality is awesome. I haven't yet listened to the CD files to compare them to my ripped FLAC versions, but the Paraliminal effect seems to be working just fine on me.
Re: Listening on mp3 player? - 05/16/07 12:21 PM
FLAK?
Doesn't it suppose to be FLAC(free lossless audio conversion)?
btw as far as i know subliminal tapes(not sure bout paraliminal) works on bitrate larger than 98kbps mp3(if you are pro in converting audio) ,but would be better if bitrate is higher
Doesn't it suppose to be FLAC(free lossless audio conversion)?
btw as far as i know subliminal tapes(not sure bout paraliminal) works on bitrate larger than 98kbps mp3(if you are pro in converting audio) ,but would be better if bitrate is higher