Posted By: Michael Saikali Your body's many cries for water. - 05/24/02 03:55 PM
The website www.watercure2.com is a very interesting site.

Has anyone tried the water cure method to alleviate any conditions they had?

Interesting how they mention within a few days the body begin's detox process of flushing toxic waste out of the body and it show's in many forms. Very interesting!

Love Light and Laughter

Michael






Posted By: tracey Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 05/24/02 09:16 PM
There is also:
http://www.watercure.com

I tried doing the salt but did not notice any changes. Part of me wonders if it's not so much the salt that works or just the increase in water.

I belong to several other exercise/health related boards and the majority of people have reported that when they added the salt and increased their water they started losing weight/inches, even when they'd been on a plateau for quite awhile.

I haven't read a lot of research on the salt aspect. Even in "Your Bodies Many Cries for Water" it doesn't mention the salt as much as I think it should.

If you've read my other post you know I don't really like this book. It seems largely filled with repeated information and testimonials, rather than actual research information.

There are a lot of naysayers who have issues with the salt saying that too much salt is bad for you.

I believe all of this comes down to one thing .. you are unique.

Your milage may vary, this might work fantastic for you or it might not work at all. The amount of salt I had to take in a day was quite a bit and it gets tiresome taking a lot of pills (on top of what you already take). I encapsulated my sea salt because I did not want to drink the salt in my water.

Tracey~





Tracey,

Had my first taste of sea-salt/water today ... yuck!

The watercure site has a whole lot of info on salt in relation to bodily functioning. Seems to make sense.

It would appear that many report changes within days.

I've reserved a copy from local library to gauge the quality of information contained int the book prior to buying.

That brings up another point. I've now made it madatory to always check my library to see if the book I want is there. If it is, I reserve and read it. If it's a keeper, I then purchase. Oh well, I'm learning!

Love Light and Laughter


Michael





Posted By: weight39doug Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 05/27/02 05:52 AM
Hey Michael,

I've noticed from the the tone of your posts that you sound like a pretty happy guy. I am just curious if you are still using holosync and what level you are one.

Best of luck with your continued growth.





weight39doug,

It really great to see an old friend still on this board. I was wondering if you still were hanging around! It make's me really happy to know that many of the friends that I know on this board still participate.

Yes, I'm a Holosync memeber. Happy? You bet! Do I use it? Not as much as I should, however I'm happy just looking at the CD's on my shelf!







Posted By: Rogin Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 06/18/02 04:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tracey:
I belong to several other exercise/health related boards

Could you post some of them please?

Thanks!







Posted By: Rogin Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 06/20/02 01:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tracey:
There are a lot of naysayers who have issues with the salt saying that too much salt is bad for you.

"Second, individuals must ingest one-quarter of a teaspoon of sea salt for every quart of water they drink." << From watercure2.com

If my conversions are right, that's just 3/4 of a teaspoon for 3 litres of water, that's a very small quantity.

First I was worried too, because I misread and understood 1 teaspoon instead of 1/4 and got a quart as 1/4 of a liter... that would be 16 times as much salt :P

I used a translator for quart, it told "quarter of a gallon", is that right? If so, then fine, 1 quart then equals to 1 liter more or less.

Right now I'm having my firsts swallows of this beverage, I don't even notice the salt taste.

Bye, and please tell me if my measures are right, thanks!





Posted By: Rogin Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 06/20/02 01:17 AM
Forgot to give thanks for those urls.





Hello all,

It's been about 3 to 4 weeks since being on the watercure method.

I've purchased high grade grey sea salt and drink nothing but spring water. All water and salt are NOT created equally!

Well, I'm HAPPY to report that I have seen some wonderful results.

1. The number one reason for starting was to see if it could make a differce in a skin condition I've had for years. It's improved by at least 70-80 percent.

2. Bowel movements have increased to 3-4 times a day ... I've dropped weight from this alone!

3. Urine has become clear and frequent ... an indication of hydrated body.

4. Muscle cramps and pulls at the gym are none existant!

5. Feeling of goodness surrounds my being ...

Well, will report more as time progresses.

Love Light and Laughter,

Michael





Posted By: InquiringMind Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 06/21/02 03:10 PM
Hi Michael,

Thanks for posting this message about the watercure site. It will definitely make a huge difference in the lives of everyone who decides to try out the system.

I have read, and know through personal experience, how essential it is to drink adequate water. My only concern is about the effects of salt, because is'nt too much sodium in one's diet associated with high blood pressure? Will the body be able to flush out all excess sodium so that it does not eventually harm the body?

Please note, this is a genuine question - I am truly trying to find out - because if there are no ill effects with salt, then I would love to adopt and use the system.

By trying to improve one area of the body, we don't want to cause harm to other areas.

Thanks, and I look forward to any responses.





InquiringMind,

I can only report my observations of having done and continue to do the watercure method.

First off, I'd check out the watercure2 website listed above ... tons of information and it does answer many questions.

Below info is from the Watercure2 site ...

"We in the medical profession, totally oblivious of the vital roles of cholesterol in the body, have been duped into thinking that it is this substance that causes arterial disease of the heart and the brain. The pharmaceutical industry has capitalized on the slogan of "bad cholesterol" and has produced toxic-to-the-body chemicals that minimally lower the level of cholesterol in the body and in the process cause liver damage to thousands of people, some who die as a result of using the medication.
It is surprising that none of the frequently quoted and media-popularized doctors has reflected on the fact that cholesterol levels are measured from blood taken from the veins, yet nowhere in medical literature is there a single case of cholesterol having caused obstruction of the veins. Venous blood moves far slower than arterial blood and thus would be more inclined to have cholesterol deposits if the assumption of "bad cholesterol" were accurate. This mistake by us in the medical community, and its capitalization by the pharmaceutical industry, has caused an ongoing fraud against society.

In truth, the so-called "bad" cholesterol is actually far more beneficial than is appreciated. The reason for its rise in the body is because of complications caused by chronic unintentional dehydration and insufficient urine production. Dehydration produces concentrated, acidic blood that becomes even more dehydrated during its passage through the lungs before reaching the heart – because of evaporation of water in the lungs during breathing. The membranes of the blood vessels of the heart and main arteries going up to the brain become vulnerable to the shearing pressure produced by the thicker, acidic blood. This shearing force of toxic blood causes abrasions and minute tears in the lining of the arteries that can peel off and cause embolisms of the brain, kidneys and other organs. To prevent the damaged blood vessel walls from peeling, low-density (so-called "bad") cholesterol coats and covers up the abrasions and protects the underlying tissue like a waterproof bandage until the tissue heals.

Thus, the vital, life-saving role of low-density cholesterol proves this substance is of utmost importance in saving the lives of those who do not adequately hydrate their bodies so that their blood can flow easily through the blood vessels without causing damage.

Cholesterol is an element from which many of our hormones are made. Vitamin D is made by the body from cholesterol in our skin that is exposed to sunlight. Cholesterol is used in the insulating membranes that cover our nerve systems. There is no such a thing as bad cholesterol. If all the primary ingredients are available for its normal functions, the human body does not engage in making things that are bad for its survival. Until now we did not know water was a vital nutrient that the body needed at all times – and in sufficient quantity.

Water itself – not caffeinated beverages that further dehydrate – is a better cholesterol-lowering medication than any chemical on the market. It is absolutely safe and is not harmful to the body like the dangerous medications now used. Please share this information with those you care for.

For more information about my medical breakthrough on the topic of chronic unintentional dehydration and the diseases it causes, other than what is posted on this site, refer to my books and tapes – products of over 20 years of fulltime research."

And SALT ...

"Salt is a vital substance for the survival of all living creatures, particularly humans. Water and salt regulate the water content of the body. Water itself regulates the water content of the interior of the cell by working its way into all of the cells it reaches. It has to get there to cleanse and extract the toxic wastes of cell metabolisms. Salt forces some water to stay outside the cells. It balances the amount of water that stays outside the cells. There are two oceans of water in the body; one ocean is held inside the cells of the body, and the other ocean is held outside the cells. Good health depends on a most delicate balance between the volume of these oceans, and this balance is achieved by salt - unrefined salt.

When water is available to get inside the cells freely, it is filtered from the outside salty ocean and injected into the cells that are being overworked despite their water shortage. This is the reason why in severe dehydration we develop an edema and retain water. The design of our bodies is such that the extent of the ocean of water outside the cells is expanded to have the extra water available for filtration and emergency injection into vital cells. The brain commands an increase in salt and water retention by the kidneys. This is how we get an edema when we don't drink enough water.

Initially, the process of water filtration and its delivery into the cells is more efficient at night when the body is horizontal. The collected water, that mostly pools in the legs, does not have to fight the force of gravity to get onto the blood circulation. If reliance of this process of emergency hydration of some cells continues for long, the lungs begin to get waterlogged at night, and breathing becomes difficult. The person needs more pillows to sit upright to sleep. This condition is the consequence of dehydration. However, you might overload the system by drinking too much water at the beginning. Increases in water intake must be slow and spread out until urine production begins to increase at the same rate that you drink water.

When we drink enough water to pass clear urine, we also pass out a lot of the salt that was held back. This is how we can get rid of edema fluid in the body; by drinking more water. Not diuretics, but more water!! In people who have an extensive edema and show signs of their heart beginning to have irregular or very rapid beats with least effort, the increase in water intake should be gradual and spaced out, but not withheld from the body. Naturally, salt intake should be limited for two or three days because the body is still in an overdrive mode to retain it. Once the edema has cleared up, salt should not be withheld from the body.

Salt has many other functions than just regulating the water content of the body. Here are some of the more vital functions of salt in the body:

1. Salt is most effective in stabilizing irregular heartbeats and, Contrary to the misconception that it causes high blood pressure, it is actually essential for the regulation of blood pressure - in conjunction with water. Naturally the proportions are critical.

2. Salt is vital to the extraction of excess acidity from the cells in the body, particularly the brain cells.

3. Salt is vital for balancing the sugar levels in the blood; a needed element in diabetics.

4. Salt is vital for the generation of hydroelectric energy in cells in the body. It is used for local power generation at the sites of energy need by the cells.

5. Salt is vital to the nerve cells' communication and information processing all the time that the brain cells work, from the moment of conception to death.

6. Salt is vital for absorption of food particles through the intestinal tract.

7. Salt is vital for the clearance of the lungs of mucus plugs and sticky phlegm, particularly in asthma and cystic fibrosis.

8. Salt is vital for clearing up catarrh and congestion of the sinuses.

9. Salt is a strong natural antihistamine.

10. Salt is essential for the prevention of muscle cramps.

11. Salt is vital to prevent excess saliva production to the point that it flows out of the mouth during sleep. Needing to constantly mop up excess saliva indicates salt shortage.

12. Salt is absolutely vital to making the structure of bones firm. Osteoporosis, in a major way, is a result of salt and water shortage in the body.

13. Salt is vital for sleep regulation. It is a natural hypnotic.

14. Salt is a vitally needed element in the treatment of diabetics.

15. Salt on the tongue will stop persistent dry coughs.

16. Salt is vital for the prevention of gout and gouty arthritis.

17. Salt is vital for maintaining sexuality and libido.

18. Salt is vital for preventing varicose veins and spider veins on the legs and thighs.

19. Salt is vital to the communication and information processing nerve cells the entire time that the brain cells work - from the moment of conception to death.

20. Salt is vital for reducing a double chin. When the body is short of salt, it means the body really is short of water. The salivary glands sense the salt shortage and are obliged to produce more saliva to lubricate the act of chewing and swallowing and also to supply the stomach with water that it needs for breaking down foods. Circulation to the salivary glands increases and the blood vessels become "leaky" in order to supply the glands with water to manufacture saliva. The "leakiness" spills beyond the area of the glands themselves, causing increased bulk under the skin of the chin, the cheeks and into the neck.

21. Sea salt contains about 80 mineral elements that the body needs. Some of these elements are needed in trace amounts. Unrefined sea salt is a better choice of salt than other types of salt on the market. Ordinary table salt that is bought in the super markets has been stripped of its companion elements and contains additive elements such as aluminum silicate to keep it powdery and porous. Aluminum is a very toxic element in our nervous system. It is implicated as one of the primary causes of Alzheimer's disease.

22. Twenty-seven percent of the body's salt is in the bones. Osteoporosis results when the body needs more salt and takes it from the body. Bones are twenty-two percent water. Is it not obvious what happens to the bones when we're deficient in salt or water or both."

Michael








Posted By: Xehupatl Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/01/02 12:21 PM
When I wake up in the morning with a headache, is that a sign of dehydration?

thanks
Stefan





Posted By: quidscribis Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/01/02 06:45 PM
Waking up in the morning with a headache is frequently a symptom of sleep deprivation. If you're tired, fall asleep easily during the day, don't feel rested, I would investigate sleep disorders. There are a whole bunch of them, and they can be pretty serious if not treated.

I know this isn't the answer you were expecting, but I had to throw this out there. Sleep deprivation can wreak havoc on a person's life.

Laurie





Posted By: AlexK Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/02/02 03:28 PM
Often a lack of oxygen is also a cause of headaches and tiredness during the day.

Alex





Posted By: Lonnie46 Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/03/02 03:10 PM
I've got 2 problems with this watercure:

1) After a while, I get tired of trying to drink all that water.

2) I get tired of having to go to the bathroom all the time.

Also, besides the watercure, this Dr. B says that you have to walk at least 2 hours a day to maintain your health.

Gimme a break! To me this isn't worth all the bother.





Posted By: Lonnie46 Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/03/02 03:12 PM
I've got 2 problems with this watercure:

1) After a while, I get tired of trying to drink all that water.

2) I get tired of having to go to the bathroom all the time.

Also, besides the watercure, this Dr. B says that you have to walk at least 2 hours a day to maintain your health.

Gimme a break! To me this isn't worth all the bother.





It may seem like alot of water, which is why it is suggested to dring small quantities through out the day.

Your continuous trips to the restroom is a good indication your kidneys are doing their job and or another way to put it, yer innards are doing what they should.

There is a saying, you can pay a small price now (the bother) or a bigger price later (your health).

The great thing about this is, it's your choice or should I say, your lifestyle you wish to adopt.

Love Light and Laughter,

Michael





Posted By: mgrego2 Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/04/02 03:25 AM
I have a good friend who began the program a year ago and swears by it. He says he feels better than he ever has. In addition to that, his ulcer problem completely disappeared and has not returned, despite the fact that he is going through a very stressful time right now.





Posted By: Mastermind Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 07/04/02 11:51 PM
Lonnie, you said you got tired of doing it. Just being tired of doing something isnt a good reason to stop, you are only looking at the negative aspects of it. Look at the possible outcomes on your health, I have given up pop (soda, cola, whatever) and only drink water, milk and juice. That alone has raised my energy, concentration, physical endurance (Low brass in one of the US's top marching bands, 7 hours of practice everyday for a week), and everything about me. I feel great.

Your "I get tired of ____" will dissapear if you give it a go.





Posted By: Publius Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 09/09/02 01:12 AM
Michael Saikali, any updates as to how the water diet is working for you? Are you still on it?

Also, there seems to be some confusion about the use of sea salt. Some people report that they add the sea salt to the water and down this rather unpleasantly tasting mix. But NOWHERE in Dr. Batmanghelidji's book does he recommend this. To quote (emphasis added):

"For every 10 glasses of water (about two quarts), one should add to the DIET about half of a teaspoon of salt per day." He suggests in the book using sea salt to season your food to achieve this.

I just thought this should be clarified, because people were probably making the water cure more unpleasant than it needed to be.
regards,
Publius





Publius,

Yes I'm still on the watercure method.

I've noticed one BIG difference since being on it.

I am more sensitive to the fact when my body needs water ... I easily pickup the signals when my body needs water, the body literally screams for water!

Skin is softer.

My gym workouts are much better. Muscle gain ... not at Arnold's size yet!

I do not put the salt in my water. I take the 1/4 tsp and take it in one shot. Followed by a good downing of water.

Hope this helps, gotta go, wife is expecting anytime and I have to tend to her every call!

LLL

Michael Saikali






Posted By: swingkid Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 09/11/02 12:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Saikali:
Publius,

Yes I'm still on the watercure method.

I've noticed one BIG difference since being on it.

I am more sensitive to the fact when my body needs water ... I easily pickup the signals when my body needs water, the body literally screams for water!

Skin is softer.

My gym workouts are much better. Muscle gain ... not at Arnold's size yet!

I do not put the salt in my water. I take the 1/4 tsp and take it in one shot. Followed by a good downing of water.

Hope this helps, gotta go, wife is expecting anytime and I have to tend to her every call!

LLL

Michael Saikali


I've been following the watercure as well. I started a only a few weeks ago. I feel a lot better, and more energetic than before. I believe I've lost a little weight due to the water cure as well. I've also been listening to the Ideal Weight paraliminal too.

I just add a quarter tsp of sea salt to a quart decanter of water and drink it the way I used to drink diet soda. It actually tastes pretty good to me. I've also read that you don't have to add it to the water, but I just like it that way. Some people like to put it in their palms and just lick it up, or add it to their food. I don't think I could do that.

On another note, I was reading of an ancient practice in China that recommends drinking a gallon of water all at once first thing in the morning before doing anything else. It talked of great benefits similar to the benefits discussed in the water cure web sites and books.





The reason for drinking a gallon of water first thing in the morning is to check for bodily leaks!

LLL

Michael Saikali






Posted By: swingkid Re: Your body's many cries for water. - 09/13/02 12:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Saikali:
The reason for drinking a gallon of water first thing in the morning is to check for bodily leaks!

LLL

Michael Saikali


Michael, I was wondering, you mentioned "high grade grey sea salt" where would one buy that. I went to GNC and found sea salt from the Hain company. I guess it's ok, but it doesn't say anything about minerals that it contains.

Thanks





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