Magnetic personality and self transformation - Forum for PhotoReading, Paraliminals, Spring Forest Qigong, and your quest for improvement

Continued from the thread IPM seems to work well.

I am a complete failure with women and money. Can you tell me how long it took to get results with EFT? I have used it almost daily since February 28th. I saw your post and just had to try self treatment(I had used EFT for 4 sessions with a therapist last year but I don't think she was very good. She gave up. I have been doing the personal peace protocol for 2 weeks. I am not sure if I should switch to affirmations just yet. I really need the money and to do better socially. It's not that I am antisocial, I like talking to people, but I just don't know what to say and I am scared. I hate being alone and broke.

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Originally posted by 4space:
I have found that all this stuff can be made incredibly more effective by using EFT and in particular spoken affirmations. See http://www.emofree.com/palaceof.htm for info. When I use spoken affirmations and EFT together I get profoundly good results so fast that it's scary. I can't believe all the good stuff that just keeps happening to me, not to mention the money just keeps on rolling in without me doing much of anything. The secret with spoken affirmations is persistence. Also the other stuff has made an enormous difference too.

Hello HenryTX2002

I don't know you, yet I am doing a project on building self-esteem and confidence using NLP and EFT, If you would like to take part in this learning adventure, I would be very happy to share my finding's over the last several years.

Before 1993 My life was a living hell, So from that time, until now, I have been researching and creating ways to create and build a possitive outlook on life. in six months I will have taken my NLP master prac, and three month from then My Trainer traing. So I have be working on a number of learning projects over the last few years, so If you want to give this a go. leave me a massage and or you can e-mail me via my profile and the really good thing about this is it will only cost you the time to respond to this.

So if you want to play the game of life in the most dynmaic way you can. take the leap.

Your already a genius

Matrixman

P.S. If anybody else want's to tag along make contact.

[This message has been edited by Matrixman (edited March 14, 2004).]

I see that Jobet Claudio and Joseph Plazo on the extrememind website has STOLEN the so called testimonals on MLF da Babe from this website without asking US the users on this forum. If these guys got any credibility(?) left they will remove the "testimonials" without us having to ask them.

Hi BJHN. I'm really sorry you feel that way. After all, by the nature of this forum, the writings are in the public domain. Much like my writings which have found their way around the world, which I cannot, and will not claim as "stolen" even though most of the time, no permission has been asked from me. But I digress. That's not the point.

I really must apologize though. Things have been happening very fast these days that I have not been able to do things in the proper order. The reason I dropped by this site today was to specifically start "cleaning up" some of the loose ends. I do agree, some dues must be paid and amends in order.

Thus, if any of the things I included in the copy of the MLF pages (btw, Mr. Plazo does not have anything to do with this, I claim full responsibility) belong to any of you, please send me an email at jobet@xtrememind.com and hopefully a good arrangement can be made.

Again, I apologize for the misplaced order of events. Thanks

jobet

Sorry about that. I'll ask Jobet to remove all of our posts from their forum. They should not have copied it in the first place.

Alex

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After all, by the nature of this forum, the writings are in the public domain.

I was under the impression that everything that's written in this forum falls under LSC copyright since at the foot of the page it says: "Entire Contents of this Site Copyright 2003 Learning Strategies Corporation". If this is so, then whatever is copied from this forum is a copyright violation.

Actually he did not put our postings from LSC on their forum but on the testimonial part of the MLF da babe page. Which is in my opinion an even clearer violation of copyrights.

I've asked him to remove it and I understand folks being upset by his actions.

If you want to make comments on it you can email me.

Personally I'd like to see this thread come back to the original energetic and interesting topic that it was.

Have a magnetic weekend.
Alex

[This message has been edited by AlexK (edited March 21, 2004).]

Geesh, I didn't know that Jobet needed to snap up our writings just to peddle his products. I liked his cool posts at Mindlist- been reading them since 1998. To his credit, Jobet's a superb NLP practitioner, but this recent trespass puts a chink in his shiny armor.

What where you thinking Jobet, mah man? You don't need testimonials to sell. If your products are great (and they damn sure are), word of mouth will get people to your door.

No one even reads posted testimonials in sites (I know *I* don't) coz they can be easily doctored! I'm sure you know that.

Look at attractwomen.com sevenmagicwords.com or mojopublishing.com!!It's full of crappy UNBELIEVABLE testimonials that obviously must have been written by the authors themselves.

It's for the very reason that XtremeMind.com RARELY ( if ever) used testimonials since its conception that I bought all their products, including yours.

XtremeMind lacked posted testimonials but it enjoyed superb e-group feedback (even from rival sites). *That* made me BUY their stuff. (I dunno why there suddenly came a surge of posted testimonials though.)

Mature web marketers realize that the real successful sites don't carry testimonials. They let their BRAND sell itself. Case in point: http://theultimatepersuasionformula.com/ This guy Kent Sayre doesn't have a single testimonial. His name sells his product.

Please, strip the testimonials from your MLF da Babe page. There are more than enough good words floating around to make it sell. You don't have to dent your armor by putting up testimonials like that weirdo at mojopublishing.com does. Let Mr. Mojojones look like the stupid idiot. Your reputation is too good to waste.

Good luck mah man!

John

Alex wants more input on becoming magnetic. Ok.

As I have written earlier I've also purchased "Charisma: Beyond Irresistable Attraction" from Kevin Hogan.
In addtion to that I've also recently purchased the e-book "The Magic Power of Personal Magnetism" written by Ernest Vinaya Kumar which got a lot of affirmations for almost every need in your life. It's a low cost e-book which gives good value for money.

The hypnosis CD's are all and well but you might feel you ned some practical info on how to behave magnetic/charismatic in everyday life. I got no problem recommending Kevin Hogans program for this purpose. Brian Tracy and Tony Alessandra got similar programs. The programs from these three are more like audio books and not all contains hypnosis sessions.

You're right suave. Actually, I modified the ad copy on www.xtrememind.com to address a nagging issue about guarantees. While I was at it, I remembered the cool stuff here and I thought...wtf, I'll stick it in, send complimentary copies to these guys in return. I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone. The posts are going down as soon as I contact Joey over Yahoo Messenger.

Jobet

Thanks, for your co-operation, Jobet.

I think we can let the matter rest and allow the topic to return to the interesting bantor of what worked and what cool stuff was found.

AlexK

[This message has been edited by Alex K. Viefhaus (edited March 20, 2004).]

In the same spirit of all this about Magnetic Personality, I posted some questions on a separate thread about the Xtrememind's "Extreme Power System Level I", but got no response. I made a new post because the main theme on this thread was mainly about seduction stuff while I am more interested on a successful businessman image. I could assume that the lack of responses means that no one have tested it for my purposes, but I want to know if that's true. Here follows the text of my other post:

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I have been browsing the xtrememind website and this program intrigues me. By what it says, there is nothing that we could not do with people by learning this program. Specially the PhD of Persuasion book. I'd not interested on Psychic Seduction (for now, maybe never), nor on Magnetic Attraction (I'm more interested on being more a businessman than a "ladykiller"), but Lethal Tongue sounds like something very interesting. At first glance, the advertisements seem very exagerated if it (the program) works at all. So my question is really simple: does it deliver what is promised? Does it fall short? At $66.95, it seems much cheaper than other programs (at $370.00 for the Deluxe program, Speed Seduction is quite expensive, given of course that it also works for things other than just seduce girls). Thanks for any response.

I too read about the MLP da Money at the Xtrememind website, but it seems that it's intended for purposes akin to the Prosperity paraliminal, not for gaining an image. I could use the IPM paraliminal for getting the necessary image plus Self Esteem Supercharger and Sales Leap, but I don't have the SL (well, I have it as one of the paraliminals in Decisive Action or Consistent Achievement) and I don't have any role model for the IPM (any suggestions?). Any help would be appreciated.

Betsemes,

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In the same spirit of all this about Magnetic Personality, I posted some questions on a separate thread about the Xtrememind's "Extreme Power System Level I", but got no response.

The best forums to consult with would be Mindlist and UltimateSeduction. These are the two groups that're avid about the Xtreme products and anything related to the energy work-NLP community. Practically everyone on those two forums have at least one of the products you mentioned and in fact those forums are where I first asked around before buying.

Back to your question (but I still recommend askin at Ultimate or Mind).

I have that level one one mentioned. Top notch material for the price asked. I liked it more than "Awaken the Giant Within" by Tony Robbins which I found too long and too boring.

I just dunno if you have the time to finish reading this pack of ebooks or the patience to remember all the techniques. Each book is subdivided into numerous chapters and you'll have to select which stuff will becom your mainstay.

While the seduction section interests me, I focused mostly on the "commerce" aspect of the books- stealthy negotiation, ambiguities, phrasing. etc ect. That pretty much left 40% of the material unmastered. But hey, it's really your discretion what to assimilate. I personally choose to focus on the commerce aspects.

Don't print the ebooks. I found a better way to carry the info on the fly: Stash em into your Pocket PC or Palm. That's what I did. It's a damn epiphany I shudda stumbled across long ago. Right now, all of Xtreme's books are in it, as well as the PDFs of MaxPersuasion, Speed Seduction, Double your Dating and the NLP HomeStudy Course by Rex Sikes.

All in all, I'd give the Xtreme package A++. It's been around a long time and the methods in it seem culled from the best techniques taught by many other trainers. Very little or no fluff at all. It's mostly technique with examples how to use them.

Check out good alternatives to the same theme:
MaxPersuasion.com
Essential-Skills.com
Jon Altfield's site
Wendi.com

Avoid any site that has Doc Mojo, Mojopublishing or Secret of the Serpent in it. This is run by Robert Jacobs- a snakeoil salesman who promises the stars and sells you mud.

John

Hi, John

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The best forums to consult with would be Mindlist and UltimateSeduction. These are the two groups that're avid about the Xtreme products and anything related to the energy work-NLP community. Practically everyone on those two forums have at least one of the products you mentioned and in fact those forums are where I first asked around before buying.

I'll try those forums. I have visited the UltimateSeduction forum, but it seemed a slow forum to me, so I tended to dismiss it, but I'll try there. What is the URL for the Mindlist forum? Yet I'll continue asking here because you are already here .

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I have that level one one mentioned. Top notch material for the price asked. I liked it more than "Awaken the Giant Within" by Tony Robbins which I found too long and too boring.

So, should I understand that it delivers what they promise?

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I just dunno if you have the time to finish reading this pack of ebooks or the patience to remember all the techniques. Each book is subdivided into numerous chapters and you'll have to select which stuff will becom your mainstay.

Don't worry about it. I plan to include those books as part of my plan for learning Photoreading. Maybe I could even DirectLearn them .

Are them ebooks? Not printed ones? I don't remember whether or not the site told about its format.

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While the seduction section interests me, I focused mostly on the "commerce" aspect of the books- stealthy negotiation, ambiguities, phrasing. etc ect. That pretty much left 40% of the material unmastered. But hey, it's really your discretion what to assimilate. I personally choose to focus on the commerce aspects.

I say that the seduction material do not interest me, because that's not part of my goals now. Seducing girls is something that interests every man and I'm no exception. But before that I'd need to work with my own mind in order to get rid of some negative programs about sex that I has, plus bypass or reprogram my entire value system. Something that could be too time consuming for something that more or less I never have really needed, not mentioning the impact of changing to become a lady's man on a highly sexually repressive society.

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Don't print the ebooks. I found a better way to carry the info on the fly: Stash em into your Pocket PC or Palm. That's what I did. It's a damn epiphany I shudda stumbled across long ago. Right now, all of Xtreme's books are in it, as well as the PDFs of MaxPersuasion, Speed Seduction, Double your Dating and the NLP HomeStudy Course by Rex Sikes.

That's a great idea. I need to buy a Palm to do it, but it really would be a great way to keep ebooks. I recently downloaded the BSFF ebook, but I mostly haven't looked into it. Maybe this way I'll be reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Did you buy all of them? Does Speed Seduction books come as PDFs? What is Double your Dating?

A question that I need to ask is whether or not Speed Seduction can be used for purposes other than seduce girls and if it's worth buying it for that purpose. I have read about some people using it for things other than seduce girls, but I wonder if it's so good on it that's worth the price tag.

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All in all, I'd give the Xtreme package A++. It's been around a long time and the methods in it seem culled from the best techniques taught by many other trainers. Very little or no fluff at all. It's mostly technique with examples how to use them.

Well, by reading this, I understand that the package delivers what they promise.

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Check out good alternatives to the same theme:
MaxPersuasion.com
Essential-Skills.com
Jon Altfield's site
Wendi.com

Would you recommend any of these alternatives over the Xtreme package? I'm looking just for your opinion. Afterwards, I'll continue looking around. It seems that there are much alternatives to consider.

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Avoid any site that has Doc Mojo, Mojopublishing or Secret of the Serpent in it. This is run by Robert Jacobs- a snakeoil salesman who promises the stars and sells you mud.

Thanks for the warning.

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I'll try those forums. I have visited the UltimateSeduction forum, but it seemed a slow forum to me, so I tended to dismiss it, but I'll try there. What is the URL for the

That's coz their lead moderator Archangel goes through every newbie's posts before having them appear. Ultimateseduction was being spammed by everyone from kiddie porn peddlers to penis enlargeners and other sham products. I think that ****ed them off and they tightened security at the group

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So, should I understand that it delivers what they promise?

I got what I came for, namely greater ease influencing people to my cause. Of course, the ad may be a little sugar coated but I feel it still delivered and made the money worth it.

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part of my plan for learning Photoreading. Maybe I could even DirectLearn them .
Are them ebooks? Not printed ones? I don't remember whether or not the site told about its format.

Yup, the pack is in ebook format. That disappointed me coz I love dusting my bookshelf everymorning and admiring my hard bound stuff. Of well. Can't win em all.

How's your photoreading experience btw? I'm now averaging 600wpm to 800wpm with commendable comprehension. Kudos to LSC!

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That's a great idea. I need to buy a Palm to do it, but it really would be a great way to keep ebooks. I recently downloaded the BSFF ebook, but I mostly haven't looked into it. Maybe this way I'll be reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Let me modify my suggestion:
Get a PALM, not a PocketPC. The Pocket PC tends to mangle the formating of some ebooks On my Palm, Pocket Acrobat Reader does a fantastic job converting PC ebook layout to Palm screen layout. In full color! With pix!

Ahhh... imagine taking that long commute home with not a whiff of boredom coz you're armed with all your ebooks on a Palm.

Incidentally, Palms last a week before charging. Pocket PCs last only a day.

Guess why??

(hint. Microsoft's operating system powers the Pocket PC)

Did you buy all of them? Does Speed Seduction books come as PDFs? What is Double your Dating?

Spent over $5000 on assorted ebooks, CDs, hardbound books, etc. I'm a collector, you see.

Speed Seduction comes in Hard copy as well as PDF. Thank God. I don't want to lug around the hard copy of SS. I'd look like a loser reading that in the bus. With the Palm, you can surreptitiously pull out a few key patterns and launch it on your seat mate.

Double your Dating is written by David De Angelo. It's essentially a very long version of the Magnetic Attraction ebook which you'd get in the Extreme Level One you were asking about. Both books are pretty top notch.

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A question that I need to ask is whether or not Speed Seduction can be used for purposes other than seduce girls and if it's worth buying it for that purpose.

Skip Speed Seduction. Ross charges too much for it. Most women find me nuts even after 8 months of practicing it. Some DO fall for it though.
My two cents: Speed Seduction can be created by ANY persistent fellow who has the rudiments of NLP down tack. SS, as you'll soon discover, is all about creating strong emotional states within people. Particularly the HORNY state.

Any NLP book, whether its O'Conner's Intro to NLP, Hall's User's Manual for the Brain or Plazo's Lethal Tongue teaches you all that... at 1/5th the price.

Look at Speed Seduction. It's $300. Unless you're a crazed collector like me, you'd experience Buyer's Remorse.

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Well, by reading this, I understand that the package delivers what they promise

I hafta agree with you on that. After reading the first two books I already knew I'd never take up their offer on the 100% satisfaction guarantee.

Ey, check out their free stuff by the way. They got free MLF da Babe and Deep Minds. Pretty effective for me. I won't even mind paying for those if they actually sold them.

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Would you recommend any of these alternatives over the Xtreme package?

I have most of Altfield's and Tom Vizzini's products. A++ in my book. Needs just a tad more organization, but its still sizzles.

From MaxPersuasion, I have only Max Persuasion level one. It costs over $300. I admit it's TREMENDOUSLY helpful, but there are grimaces.

First, the CDs are mere iterations of the manual. I pretty much got annoyed with Kenrick Cleveland guffawing and snorting all over the place. My finger kept hitting the fast forward button till I came to the meat, then fast forward,then meat... etc.

The CD set is big. About 13. I finished only four and quit. I just read the books. After all, they contained EVERYTHING cleveland was teaching, minus the guffaws.

There's another drawback. The MaxPersuasion series is a grossly overcharged package of what you can get from the $24 Mind-Lines 2000 of Michael Hall, PhD, the $69 Extreme Power of Joseph Plazo, the $30-$80 packages of Tom Vizzini at Essential-Skills.com and the $200 UltimatePersuasion Forumla of Kent Sayre.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are equally good (if not better) products at far lower prices.

By the way, Kenrick Cleveland's successes at Max Persuasion, Influential Spinning, Objection Mastery all spurred him to create this much hyped "Dark Side" of NLP.

DOn't buy it. It's $1200++. Too over priced and it's a rehash of Speed Seduction, Psychic Seduction, Mind Seduction and all the far cheaper, but pioneering works on coercive sexual NLP.

How do I know? I read all the usenet and forum write-ups. Plus, I purchased the damn package. Three of us chipped in to buy it. Man. BUYER'S REMORSE BIG TIME!!!

John

Hi again John,

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How's your photoreading experience btw? I'm now averaging 600wpm to 800wpm with commendable comprehension. Kudos to LSC!

I'm still struggling with Photoreading. You can see my efforts by reading my online journal at http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004325.html. For now I'm doing some preparations for taking the course. I'm confident I'll do it this time.

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Spent over $5000 on assorted ebooks, CDs, hardbound books, etc. I'm a collector, you see.

I have already figured it out. It seems to me that every post of yours I have read contains something new to me. In the long run, maybe I'll immediately think on interesting stuff anytime I see "suaveladykiller" as the poster.

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Look at Speed Seduction. It's $300. Unless you're a crazed collector like me, you'd experience Buyer's Remorse.

No, I'm not a collector. That's why I go around asking so much questions, I need to be sure on the value of a product before spending my hard earned money on it.

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Ey, check out their free stuff by the way. They got free MLF da Babe and Deep Minds. Pretty effective for me. I won't even mind paying for those if they actually sold them.

I downloaded MLF da Babe (although I maybe won't use it; maybe I'll do, but I could regret it), and both Deep Mind mp3s. Have you tested the other mp3s? Agressive, Energy Explosion? What about the freeware; The Road Personality Test, Relaxation Screen?

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By the way, Kenrick Cleveland's successes at Max Persuasion, Influential Spinning, Objection Mastery all spurred him to create this much hyped "Dark Side" of NLP.

LOL I have read precisely so about Ross Jeffrey. I was talking about this with my brother and we were joking about this calling him "Darth Ross". Should I call Kenrick Cleveland "Darth Kenrick"? ROFL

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DOn't buy it. It's $1200++. Too over priced and it's a rehash of Speed Seduction, Psychic Seduction, Mind Seduction and all the far cheaper, but pioneering works on coercive sexual NLP.
How do I know? I read all the usenet and forum write-ups. Plus, I purchased the damn package. Three of us chipped in to buy it. Man. BUYER'S REMORSE BIG TIME!!!

Weeeelll, if a self-admitted collector like you gets so much buyer's remorse then it's a very very very bad purchase indeed.

Could I ask again for the URL for the Mindlist forum? Thanks.

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Weeeelll, if a self-admitted collector like you gets so much buyer's remorse then it's a very very very bad purchase indeed.

Very VERY Bad. I can recreate Speed Seduction simply with the O'Conner Intro to NLP and the Rex Sikes NLP Home Study course. Not good. Not good at all for the wallet.

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Could I ask again for the URL for the Mindlist forum? Thanks.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindlist/

Just prepare to have a long wait before your posts get through. One of the gripes of people here is that the forum is moderated to strangulation.

Notwithstanding, it's a cool group of more than 3000 free thinkers on the worlds greatest self-improvement programs

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LOL I have read precisely so about Ross Jeffrey. I was talking about this with my brother and we were joking about this calling him "Darth Ross". Should I call Kenrick Cleveland "Darth Kenrick"? ROFL

Ooh. Darth Kenrick will send the black force after you now. Hahahahaha.

Someone wrote up a Word Doc file called "The 21 Most Powerful Words" which is his experiences with the core Kenrick techniques. I used to have it prior to purchase. Pretty good stuff even at 2 pages long. Look around. It may still be around.

John

Hi, John
All this goes for persuasion techniques. Have you tested any product for building a successful businessman image? Any book package or CDs?

Also, have you tried MLF da Money? I think that I have asked this question before.

I have now downloaded and tested the new MLF da Babe Free version mp3 file which was available on the Freebies page on xtrememind.

After I uploaded the file to my small portable mp3 player the file refused to play.
Then I tried to convert the file to a .WAV file and then back to an ordinary mp3 file again. The resulting mp3 file was full of strange background noises which made it impossible to use it with the mp3 player.
Based on my experiences with this file I can't recommend people to buy the CD.

If Jobet Claudio wants us to recommend his products to other people he must make his freeware products completely compatible with the mp3 standard without any kind of copy protection.
And please do not come with any of this anti piracy bull****. If it's supposed to be freeware there should be no limitations on the file.

Has anyone else been more lucky with using the Mlf da Babe file on their mp3 player?

WOW! I have been browsing Wendi.com and there are what seems to be truly amazing stuff! Something that immediately caught my attemtion was "Hair Growth Hypnosis". Since I'm balding and this is a major bruise for my self-image. I already ordered a copy of the program, it's not exactly what I was looking for, but.... well, you know how urgent those things could feel. I'll be putting it to use immediately after receipt. As for the rest of the programs, I'll be looking at them for a while.

Yes it's incredible what can be cured by hypnosis by the look of it. Those hypnosis CDs which covers remote seduction and gives luck at lottery/gambling and so on its just too stupid to believe in. Many of these hypnotists are trying to appear serious but some of the titles they have created are just rediculous.

On the other hand: I've come across a hypnosis CD which should be able to make an Alpha Male out of a wimp. That one is actually interesting. I'll consider it some other time. Don't remember who sells it.

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Those hypnosis CDs which covers remote seduction and gives luck at lottery/gambling and so on its just too stupid to believe in. Many of these hypnotists are trying to appear serious but some of the titles they have created are just rediculous.

It may be, but I'll never know for sure unless I try them out. When I hear myself now and I remember who I was 20 years ago, I just can be amazed at how my mind have changed over the years. When I first heard about photoreading, I didn't believe that it could be possible; but after some years, I was able to believe it enough to buy the book. Maybe fear of playing fool keeps us from doing some things or trying something new. With this in mind I always try to keep myself open to every possibility, even those "luck improvers". Maybe those are scams; but without testing them, who knows for sure? A drawback of that site is that no review was featured which could mean no one has been posted or that everyone of them were negative and the webmaster deleted them.

Hi John.

I hope you'd be a little more careful and discerning next time before jumping to conclusions (not to mention, mind-reading) such as you have.

I have not set any copyright bits or copyright protection on the freeware not by technology and not by Conscience Control. Like, what's the point in sharing it if it can't be used by others?

Last I checked before I gave the file to joey, it plays. Some other guys who downloaded it also had it play without any problem. Your experience is not the first though, because there is at least one other guy who complained that the file played fast forward. I just downloaded the file and it plays on Winamp. It's skippy, but that might be due to my PC's lack of memory. I think I found what causes the problem. The file is encoded at 96 kbps, one notch shy of 128 kbps. I'll remaster it and have it encoded at 128 kbps to allow it to be played on mp3 players.

Anyway, try the alternate download at jobetclaudio.tripod.com . The link is at the lower right of the page. I have already uploaded the remastered 128 kbps file.

As for the noise, I can't judge exactly what you mean, because as you said, the file wasnt right. There are some noises deliberately placed there by design, both in the high and low registers. There are also both the Trance Engine noises and the sinewave binaural beats.

Now if you want more "confessions", I slipped when I said "the air around you..is a pleasant relaxation grass". Grass ? Grass ? wow...I didnt cure it, because I thought it was good. Maybe my unconscious mind was telling me something. :-)

Be well.

Jobet

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Hi, Jobet
I tried to download your file, but my browser was unable to get it, it said that the URL isn't valid.

Since MLF da Babe seems to have worked very well for suaveladykiller, I just ordered the other CDs of Jobet's; MLF da Money. I have asked for it many times and having gotten no response I guess nobody in this forum has tested it. So I'll test it and see if it really works. I could be reporting how good or bad it is.

To Jobet.

I confess was ****ed when I found out that the file could not be played on my portable mp3 player. Incidently I had the same problem with the old free version of Mlfdababe which I downloaded from WinMX. You must have used the same mp3 encoder to create that file as well.
I think I jumped to the conclusions when I got ****ed off after the problems trying to make the file play on the mp3 player.

Regarding the noise at the beginning of the file. It was modest and controlled on the original.
Then I converted the file to a Wav file and back to an mp3 file in 96kbps. Then the noise especially in the beginning became very high and varied a lot compared to the original. I'm using the pro version of MusicMatch.

I will try the next version of The Babe.
I'll bet you filled the freebie files with subliminals telling us to buy your products! Just kidding! ;-) Or not...
Perhaps it's a good idea?

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Betsemes:

The file is there, I just re-checked after reading your mail. Here's the direct link:

jobetclaudio.tripod.com/freemlf.mp3

BJHN:

Please download the new file then see if the noise problem persists. The freeware major brainwave frequency is set at 12 Hz, so its not supposed to put you to sleep, although I have discovered some new frequencies for use with the sine wave binaurals, and these include the "knowing" frequency. Its like the brain has a switch which if triggered, can make information passing from being "perceived" to being "known". This should trigger the changes much more quickly. By the way, these binaurals sound like a low frequency "bell" so if these are the noises you're referring to, they were deliberately put there.

I have also created a new way of stacking sine wave binaurals using a hierarchical method instead of the "star" method that bwgen creates. I'm trying to do as much as I can in the space of nine minutes. So it's still research. Testing it myself with headphones, it put me in this zone where I got really groggy but awake...dizzy but seemingly with energy passing through my spine. It's difficult to describe. Thats why I wanted others to use the file.

Hence, this is all research for the next quantum leaps. Its like fitting and testing new bells and whistles on an old and proven locomotive.

As for stimulating sales, the big picture here is that I'm halfway through writing a new script called "The Aphrodite Project". This is the MLF da Babe for women albeit written differently based on my research about how women think. Now, I supply da Babe to guys and Aphrodite to women, and it will spark a war of the sexes and an MLF Arms race, with both camps trying to "out-seduce" and "out-magnet" the other. Then I continue upgrading as research progresses and selling to both camps. Insidous eh ? Hehehe. You decide if I'm kidding or not :-D .

Be well, dude.

Jobet

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So do you have to make the approach to the woman if you use Mlf Da Babe? I have never approached a woman before and I have social phobia(body temperature rises, choking, heart races). Or does it work by making you subconsciously change your body language to be more attractive for women to notice you and approach you?

I downloaded the free version of MLF da babe after reading about it here, I've only listened to it a few times in the last few days but it does seem to take me down a level, not asleep but sort of trancey. haven't noticed any women throwing themselves at me yet though ;-)

So what's the difference between the free version and the one you buy, other than the money and it's longer ;-)

BJHN:

If you really want to use the free mlf, this is what you do.

Play the working copy in Winamp.
Get yourself Adobe Audition, Wavelab or any other program that can capture what's playing at the moment (works with internet-radio or anything).
Then record the wav-file from the playing mp3 in Winamp.
Convert the new wav-file and voil�.

Perhaps this isn't an issue any more but now people know how to do it.

Tore

- sexing himself up with the base-chakra.

Henry :

Hi ! If you read the product page of mlf da babe on www.xtrememind.com , you'll notice that I did say that you will need "trench tools". As joey put it quite succintly "you will still have to close it". But with a new attitude implanted by da Babe, closing should be a snap. If you want to be totally sure, couple MLF with trench tool kits like Speed Seduction, MSM or the stuff you can find at www.fastseduction.com . Mastery of those, plus the internal power brought by MLF da Babe will make success very certain.

Evo:
Da Babe 2.0 has too many features which, of course by business nature, I didnt include in the freeware. For one, 2.0 includes precision-DHE techniques while the freeware includes the original "generic magnet" technique. Lets just say, between 1.0 and 2.0 is the time when I learned how to apply DHE...and a lot of other things.

Be well dudes.

Jobet

I have been reading around on persuasion and a piece of information I found yesterday was about speaking with the diafragm (belly speak if you like). I tested it and I like my voice better when I speak that way, but I fail to remember it when the time comes to actually speak. I have been thinking on using the New Behavior Generator for this, but I could use any advise.

Hi Betsemes, If you want a good product for developing good diaphramic tonality, try a product from Jonathan Altfields page (mastery insight, I think). To practice speaking from the diaphram you might want to remember to pause and take a deep breath before you speak. For using NBG, you might want to model a politican on "Meet the Press", especially one who is getting grilled. Forget about the political crap they are going to spew, just foucus on the fact that they pause and take a deep breath before they respond. Hope this helps.

George

Sometime ago, I tried to find Altfield's page without success. I Yahooed, Googled, and Altavistaed for it, and then I gave up. Now, I know why I didn't find it. His name is Jonathan Altfeld, not Altfield. I suppose you refer to "Finding Your Irresistible Voice CD-set". $59.95 for a two CD set, I have to wait; I have spent way too much on self improvement stuff recently.

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For using NBG, you might want to model a politican on "Meet the Press", especially one who is getting grilled. Forget about the political crap they are going to spew, just foucus on the fact that they pause and take a deep breath before they respond.

I will pay attention on the way politicians speak. I have in mind one or two that are corrupt ones, but people still follow them. They are my first choices for role models.

To Tore:
Thanks. But I was able to fix it with MusicMatch Jukebox. I just reencoded the file first into a wav file then back into an mp3 file using a different kbps speed and was then able to play the file on the [hardware] mp3 player.

Hey Betsemes, I just had another thought. What with the weekend coming up, if you got the time, try (I think I might try this myself) either watch some evangelical preacher on TV on sunday, or better yet, find a baptist church in your neighborhood and go sit in the front row. Those dudes would be excellent to model for communication skills. (remember ignore the content of their sermons, just focus on the delivery) As far as voice improvement goes, look for a book by Lillian Glass (not sure of the title, something to do with voice or voice projection) its filled with lots of good excercises similar to the one on Altfelds CD's.

Hope this helps.

George

Suave,

I'm sorry, but your advice about testimonials is utterly and patently WRONG.

To give someone this advice is borderline criminal. Almost every book on ad copy out there screams about the value of testimonials as response boosters. If you don't have any experience in selling online, don't give out advice.

So, let's see, do you have any information on Kent Sayre's sales? Do you know it's really selling well?

Do you know that it wouldn't sell better with testimonials?

I think I know the answers to those questions.

Anyway, to anyone who read that and owns a website, please take this post as an urgent plea to reconsider this ill-informed and downright dangerous advice. Suave does not know what he's talking about here (he may know about other things - I don't know him at all - but this advice is dangerous and wrong).

Grace