I just received an email from LSC about Dr. David Hawkins and his research. I have seen (& done) different types of muscle testing before at the retreats.

I just thought of a question while I was reading the email. We know that our body knows the answer - the email mentions about getting results across different culture, etc. Now how about language? If I'm asked questions in a language that I do not understaned, and I'm tested on that, would my body still know the right answers?

Has anyone done any testing on language before (should I apply for a patient on the idea)? If not, would some people (who are experts) be willing to do some testing?

We can do an experiment right here. I am going to make up a word and define its meaning.

You do your muscle thing and tell me what the word means.

Here is the word:

hysfigit

Go for it.

[This message has been edited by babayada (edited February 21, 2006).]

After reading the above post, my muscles became very tense. So I guess "hysfigit" means "frustation or anger."

Was I right?

I do not know how to answer a question with body test other than yes/no. I thought they need to be yes/no questions/answers.

Second thing is, if you only make up a word which is not part of a language, that is only in your subconscious - not sure how that would work.

Is this something you can do on your own or do you need to do it with someone else?

Hi 4space,

You do it with two people. One is being tested by the other.

I have the course and you can read my opinion of it in: http://www.learningstrategies.com/forum/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000989.html

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I was interested in this course too. I search the web to see if I could get it cheaper. At nightingale.com it is discounted at $49.99. Can learning strategies offer this price too?

http://www.nightingale.com/p~Product~Highest_Level_Enlightenment.asp

Is it just me? When I click the link I get the price of $79.95. Nightingale gave us permission to sell them for $69.95

Alex

It's not just you. Me too. Maybe there was a coupon code involved.

Try this website. They have it listed for $59 for the CD's and $49 for cassettes. I've ordered from them, delivery is prompt. Never any problems. Hawkins course is at bottom of the page.
http://www.successonsale.com/catalog_c24076.html

Is there a technique for doing this on your own. i.e. without an assistant?

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Originally posted by 4space:
Is there a technique for doing this on your own. i.e. without an assistant?

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27 Ways to Muscle Test and Muscle Testing Hints
Finger, hand, arm, and leg muscle methods. Also sticky, ideomotor, visual, kinesthetic, auditory methods and dowsing. http://www.behaviourchanges.com (click "Articles, #1014"")

How-to w/ good illustrations of O-ring test. Also of another method using your thigh and pointing finger of your test hand. http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/AB1473/webpage.cfm?WebPage_ID=67&DID=8

Also, check out deviceless dowsing at http://www.diviningmind.com/deviceless-dowsing.html .

The variations are limitless. I actually use a much simpler method, less tiring, and not requiring muscles pressing against each other but these should give you a start.

If you want to attain complete objectivity, make a list of your questions and put each question in an unmarked envelope. Shuffle the envelopes and muscle test each envelope, writing the test result outside the envelope. After you've gone through all the envelopes, open each one. Knowing the question ahead of time is what is called "front-loading" in remote viewing.

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Hobo,

Nupe, sorry.

Try seeing if you can find out if it is a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, or preposition.

Sorry for taking so long to reply.

[This message has been edited by babayada (edited March 07, 2006).]

Hi,
I bought a Hawkins course from Nightingale -Conant in UK -The highest Level of Enlightenment. At the end is a Q & A session where someone asked why people in their group kept getting different answers to the same question when doing muscle testing.
Dr Hawkins answer was revealing - he said 78% of the population cannot do muscle testing and another 10% also for various reasons cannot do it. Which to my reckoning leaves 12%! The persons doing it must have NO vested interest in the answer and must be impartial and unambigous with their questioning. Which probably rules out another 10% because there is hardly any point in doing it if you don't have a vested interest in the answer since most people do it to answer questions about their own lives.
Also he said that if one asked a question then repeated it , by initially asking you change reality so the second time you ask you will get something different. Which leaves you where?

The rest of the course is fine and is about Consciousness and not about muscle testing. I agree Dr Hawkins is not good at teaching, but he has some things to say which are valid, valuable and interesting, also he has a funny sense of humour which is appealing.

Make of it what you will?

Love & light
Faune

[This message has been edited by Faune (edited March 08, 2006).]

Hi Faune,

Very close to my experiences on the course, though I did not do the math

His sense of humour is typical to people who have a high level of consciousness, as far as I know. I think it is one of the best things on the course. He is fun to listen wiht that toch of stanup comedy.

To really understand this work you need to follow the links posted earlier on muscle testing. You also need to by the book “POWER VS. FORCE” by David R Hawkins M.D, Ph.D.
Gerry

[This message has been edited by gerryvanrooyen (edited April 06, 2006).]

I don't have "Highest level of enlightenment" but I do have "truth vs falsehood" and he talks about this there also.

He stated in TvsF that only 15% of the population can even do this testing and one of the criteria for it is if you personally calibrate at above 200 on his scale of enlightenment. Another criteria is you have to be innocent. You also have to have the right to ask the question or have the answer. On the DVD he only shows how to do the technique using someone elses arm. Also, the person who's arm you're using can't know the question. You just hold it in your mind and ask the questions mentally.

shr33m, thank you for those links. I think that finding a method that is "secret" and can be done anywhere without anyone knowing you're doing it is alot more practical than the arm thingy. Using a necklace as a dowser is one way I've done it. I've also used twitches in my fingers and the finger loops.

Here is a website where you can listen to some of his shows. i posted this before, but I thought some of you might be interested. Good stuff that you might want to hear to possibly answer your questions or help you decide to buy his course.
http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml