Hi I’ve just finished the course and I am very impressed with it.

Just recently during a quite period at work I was practicing my Anchorman List on a piece of paper. I would make up a sentence in my mind and then convert the letters to numbers. A colleague noticed the seemingly random list of numbers and asked what I was doing. I quickly said that I could remember the list of numbers in the order it was written. He laughed and took the piece of paper and said go on then tell me. I quickly wiped the smile of his face when I correctly told him the numbers as written on the paper.

These are the number that I had impressed my colleague with: -

9812251611420119209313513151825

It’s simple to remember when you break it down to: -

I HAVE A FANTASTIC MEMORY

9 81225 1 6114201192093 13513151825

This is a great way of remembering your Anchorman List and having some fun.

You can even make longer sentences to recall the numbers; I have used sentences that give 100+ numbers.

A more advanced technique that I use is to add one number to the original number for example

MEMORY would be 13513151825

Advanced technique would be 14614161926

There is less chance of somebody finding out how you remembered the numbers by using the advanced technique.

There are limitless ways of modifying this technique you could use 0 for a certain letter to make it look even more random.

I hope I’ve made sense here and 20811411 251521 61518 12919203149147

SarZ

That's a great way of remembering the numbers/letters out of order.
Today, while I was in the shower, I was thinking of names to put on my ABC List. Since I couldn't write & I didn't want to record, I used my anchorman list to remember the names & kept reviewing them until I got out to write them down. This is also a greatidea todo if you're driving or if the dentist or doctor walks in & you can't record it, or if the telephone rings. Toby

Hi again, I just reread your post again. If you were to make a sentence from numbers that you are going to remember, I would put a space or a slash or- between double digits, like V=22, so that years from now, you don't mistake it for two 2's istead of 22. Toby

Good idea Toby I could have a diary where I can substitute letters with numbers for certain personal words.

I suppose you could have a conversation with somebody who knows this system just using numbers. People would probably think your going mad!
SarZ

That's a great idea, also if you want to write a note, but don't want anyone reading it. You could write a name in numbers & the numbers in letters - the reverse of what you wrote. Keep the ideas flowing. They are very creative. Toby

this is also an excellent way to generate good passwords - apparently over 70% of people currently using the internet have simple passwords that are an existing word. Sometimes they will add a digit or two at the end. This is the easiest hack to do - even with one-way no-hack algorithms... what the hackers do is enter the entire dictionary through the same one-way algorithm and then match the non-sensical data on the other side to the non-sensical data from password files. Of course, only one hacker actually had to do this. Then he can sell it on to interested parties

So if you make a system for all your passwords you can have something like this
#worD!!23/15/18/4#
mixing upper and lower case letters, special characters and digits - where for ease the letters and the digits represent the same word

Hmm... this is a brilliant idea! I think I'll go apply it *lol*

Kosmik, can you use the # key in a password that you mentioned? Toby

that's an awesome way to do it!

i'm gonna start using that technique

gelvecron

I have used the following keys in passwords:
# % & / = @ and any letter or digit...

Brilliant ideas people.

I just got the course and this memory optmising is fun fun fun

Just one thought though ont his conversation.
Kosmik, your idea of mixing words and letters if of course a good one.Passwords should always be alphanumeric wherever possible.

However, how would you remember which letters to use actual letters with and which letters to sue numbers with.

You'd of course remember the first time, but how would you remember down the line.

I'm just egtting the hang of this (on CD five right now) so maybe you people can suggest something.

Perhaps some ABC list or soemthing to distinguish which letters to actually use as letters, and which letters to replace with numbers.

This would make increase consistency and efficiency when thinking about and defining new passwords.

Thanks!

Ok, just thought of a simple idea.

You could say that the first letter, is always an actual letter.

When the letter appears for the second time, then replace it with it's corresponding number.

You could use all sorts of forumalas, depending on how good your memory is for formulas and rules.

Persoanlly I'm good at this.But you don't have to egt too heavy with it.Aplhanumeric is still better than just numbers or letters.

Perhaps a smple approach would be:

-Actual letter first occurrence of the letter.
-Next occurrence of the letter replace with corresponding number.
-Next occurrence of the letter, use the actual letter........

and so on.

However, a problem that could occur here is remembering where youa re in the sequence.

Say that you have quite a few vowels in a long password of 30 letters.

Let's say you have seven 'A's.

Now it's easy following the letter, number, letter, number rule if all the A's are after each other.
But more likely the 'A's will be spread out.

In between writing out theother letters, you will ahve to remember how the next 'A' will be defined.

Will it be a number or a letter.

So, this is the next thing to figure out a way of remembering more easily.

Hmmmm, let me think...........

[This message has been edited by flex22 (edited April 24, 2004).]

I just thought to myself that people may say that you could easily tell how you defined the last letter by looking back at what you wrote.

However, password don't allow you to see what your writing on the screen.
They should show black dots most of the time.

Just thought I'd point that out.

LOL, it's me again

Just thought of a fairly simple formula.

We don't need to worry about the randomization of letters, as they are randomized already.

What I mean is, we don't have any words called AAAA, or BBBB.

Right now, there's 26 letters in the alphabet.

Divide this by 2.

So up until the 13th (M) letter of the alphabet, always use the actual letter.

from the 14th (N) letter of the alphabet, use the corresponding number.

Further rules can be applied (various divisons, those good at maths can apply), but I think I'll leave it their and wait for a reponse, to let you people read what I've written so far.

I hope you follow what I've been saying.Please do ask bout anything that's not clear.
I'm not always the best at explaining mself

Thanks again

[This message has been edited by flex22 (edited April 24, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by flex22 (edited April 24, 2004).]

all very good suggestions.

Another simple solution would be to have a system that is always the same:

@word%!%2315184@

as in: symbol - word - symbols - number corresponding to the word used in part one - symbol.

Or some such thing. By using the same word/numeric representation of word, you are quite likely to remember the password.

I had a period of using phrases that are always remembered together with an ampersand:
frankie&johnny, macaroni&cheese, bonny&clyde, hugz&kisz adding symbols and things.

I also had a mathematical period where I used squares and cubes together with words.

So a password might well look like this:
&&7sq49!magnesIUm&&
and then I could just change the number to square use a different element for the second part - systematic, yet difficult to hack.