Posted By: vajti Interesting question - 11/21/08 05:48 PM
Hello!

First of all, I don't have any problems with photoreading, my question is not about that. It's only an interesting question.
You all know that photoread uses pheripherial vision. We look trough the middle of the book and get a divergent gaze, which means we're not focusing directly on the page but the book is in a soft focus, which sends all the information on the page into the subconscious. And it works. But Paul says that photoreading is due to the pheripherial vision and the only thing that matters that the pieces of information must be taken in
through the pheripherial vision in order to get them processed by the subconscious. But pheripherial vision is a more extended
field of your view and e.g. anything seen from the corner of your eye is also processed by the subconscious mind. So, my question is that why doesn't it work that I hold the book so that both pages can be seen from the corner of my eye (I mean you can see from the corner of your eye that the book is there but you don't see what is on the pages)?
Posted By: Yukala Re: Interesting question - 11/22/08 05:26 PM
It works whether no matter how you look at the book as you turn the pages; peripheral vision is working looking straight ahead as well.
Posted By: vajti Re: Interesting question - 11/23/08 11:10 PM
You mean, it works if you put the book so that it can be seen only from the corner of your eye?
Posted By: Yukala Re: Interesting question - 11/24/08 04:07 AM
Yes.
Posted By: vajti Re: Interesting question - 11/28/08 08:53 PM
But Paul says: "soft focus". Thats not focus at all.
Posted By: Yukala Re: Interesting question - 11/29/08 04:14 AM
All focus other than conscious focus is 'soft focus' by default. Even your skin is always 'soft focusing' its environment. And your peripheral vision is always receiving its environment even to a candle light a mile away in the deep dark of night. All while you are seemly unaware of same.

However, we know via intuition that candle light is out there a mile away, if we are listening aware with reason to consciously know.

Ever try walking through the woods at night or blind-folded anywhere? You can 'attune' to your environment.

Do not worry IF you are recording those pages of a book as you flip through it. You are, you always have, it is just that now you are learning to attend to use of same consciously in detail for a chosen purpose.
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Interesting question - 12/09/08 12:43 PM
Vatji the peripheral vision is made up of cones and rods. Focus is with the fovea which is a area of densely packed cones. This is the part of the eye that normally focuses on reading. For PhotoReading we use the peripheral vision which is made up of the rods. They are not just at the corner of the eyes they are the remaining photoreceptors that the mind sees the peripheral focus with.

By trying to look out the corner of your eyes you are reducing the amount of receptors actively involved in viewing the page.

Stick to noticing both pages but avoid using the fovea and focus with a soft gaze so the peripheral vision does the snap shot.

AlexK
Posted By: youngprer Re: Interesting question - 12/10/08 07:44 AM
 Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
Vatji the peripheral vision is made up of cones and rods. Focus is with the fovea which is a area of densely packed cones. This is the part of the eye that normally focuses on reading.


I feel it should also be mentioned that in reality, we are only ever seeing a "sharp focus" a tiny portion of the time. The eyes actually work to create a fully whole, detailed image by numerous automatic eye movements called saccades. The fovea is an insignificant portion of your whole eye. Most of what you perceive is actually delayed by the true mechanisms of perception, as well as actual cognition. When you're highly intoxicated from alcohol, saccade activity actually slows down, which is what creates a single point of sharpness surrounded by blurriness.

If you really dive into the heart of PhotoReading, you learn there's actually more than one way to do this thing called "PhotoFocus." The important concept behind it is simply than you're removing conscious interference and inputting whatever visual stimulus is in front of you only into subconscious processing.
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Interesting question - 12/10/08 10:19 AM
The eyes don't do anything more than record, it is the brain that sees. So how in focus something appears is only how in focus our mind has made it.

AlexK
Posted By: youngprer Re: Interesting question - 12/10/08 05:16 PM
 Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
The eyes don't do anything more than record, it is the brain that sees. So how in focus something appears is only how in focus our mind has made it.

AlexK


Exactly. =]
Posted By: Yukala Re: Interesting question - 12/10/08 08:09 PM
So we come round again to the eyes record (receive) the light. How the brain or ones intelligence uses said light so recorded is based upon things like 'intention', 'purpose' and 'focus' or the fire of ones attending. At the very least it builds the force of ones 'intuition' of what is and what is not.

And of course 'old baggage of culture psychology etc. etc.' can color the whole 'light show'.
Posted By: vajti Re: Interesting question - 12/11/08 09:29 PM
Hey, this was just a question, I can photoread in my way.
I think we got this question too overcomplicated.
Posted By: youngprer Re: Interesting question - 12/12/08 08:55 AM
Sorry, vajti, I was just trying to add some depth to the answers. \:D
Posted By: vajti Re: Interesting question - 12/12/08 02:40 PM
That's alright.
Posted By: vajti Re: Interesting question - 12/12/08 04:16 PM
Anyway, what happened to Paul and Pete? They won't be answering forum-questions anymore?
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Interesting question - 12/23/08 11:56 AM
Search the pages you will find they already have answered the questions. They just keep repeating themselves.

AlexK
PhotoReading Instructor
Posted By: daweed Re: Interesting question - 01/05/09 05:27 PM
I found some topic on PhotoFocus in this forum. A lot of posts says no need to have clarity to the text, but the photo reading book says I need to have clarity for the blip page.

"When in PhotoFocus, the print on the page is probably blurred. That is okay, because to see the blip, you must place your focal plane at some distacne away. To Have clarity up close, you will need to relax your eyes and have the focal plane move in. When you develop the PhotoFocus, there is a unique clarity, and depth to the words on the page. They are not in focus, because you are not looking at them. But, there is a clarity to the print that you can notice as you relax more."

I think the Blip Page is the primary and recommanded method, that's why Paul mention at first place, and the X technique as an alternative for them who can't establish the photo focus. Additionally the PhotoPhocus enhace the eyesight, so I would like to develop this technique.

He mention that the Blip Page has an unique clarity and depth to the words on the page.
I have the Photo Focus, but the text is blurred. How can I develop the clear blip page what Paul recommend? Are there more techniques?

I tried to relax my eyes a lot of time, but I managed to see clear words only once. The interesting thing I can see that clarity and depth of words when I crossing my eyes, so I know what sholud be the final result, but I can't do this with diverging eyes.
The same situation with the stereogram pictures. I can see with crossing eyes, but I can't see with diverging eyes.


Thank you!
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Interesting question - 01/08/09 02:12 PM
"When in PhotoFocus, the print on the page is probably blurred. That is okay, because to see the blip, you must place your focal plane at some distacne away. To Have clarity up close, you will need to relax your eyes and have the focal plane move in."

Yes for photofocus you are looking further into the distance. To read you look up close and get clarity then.


"When you develop the PhotoFocus, there is a unique clarity, and depth to the words on the page."

When you develop ... This doesn't happen straight away and may not happen for everyone.


"They are not in focus, because you are not looking at them. But, there is a clarity to the print that you can notice as you relax more."

Again when you develop... how long it takes an individual no one can tell. As pointed out it's blurred and blurred is fine whether or not you develop your photofocus skill.

No the blip page is not the primarily recommended method. It's presented first because it's one sure way of knowing you have photo focus.

On the same page he writes "No Blip? No problem."

Now the blip page has nothing to do with clarity it's just a blip. The rest of the text that you are actually PhotoReading is what is blurred until you've used photofocus enough to relax and notice the clarity. Most people are just not used to noticing what they can see. Just keep PhotoReading.

IN other words PhotoRead more books and be playful. Stressing about it isn't going to make it happen \:D

AlexK
Posted By: daweed Re: Interesting question - 01/18/09 05:12 PM
This additional information is very helpful.
Thank you !
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