Posted By: KurianJojo Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/23/13 09:02 AM
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Because the books they are discussing are books they've used the PhotoReading system on.


There is no reason to discuss the contents of the books they have PRed here."Time Travel Teleportation ESP Clairvoyance Parapsy" has nothing to do with PRing.There are good and bad books out there.What you gonna do if someone Photoread them and discuss here?You have to stop them because they are deviating from the topic.This is a place to discuss Photoreading not time travel,Unless PRing is related to time travel.

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How much time have you spent with the PhotoReading course and how many books have you applied it on.


I have been trying to learn photoreading for almost 2 years.I re-tried the entire system 3 times now with no luck.I tried to learn the system for 2 months then failed,still i didn't gave up,something telling me it will work.So after few months i tried the system again completely from scratch and then again nothing.Now i started the system form scratch in December 1 2013 and being practicing everyday and still don't get the system.I'm beginning to lose faith on the system.That's why i got angry and made the last post.I completed the audio cds,watched the videos,also listened to supercharger most night before going to sleep.
The thing is,when i activate using super-read or skitter i just keep on moving down the page.I don't get any insights.I can't say for myself if the system is working for me or not.

I apologize if i offended anyone.
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/27/13 08:58 AM
I've split your response from the thread as this is a different discussion.

As to not discussing books? Why shouldn't PhotoReaders discuss the books they used the system on. Sharing is inspiring as well as sharing a topic that might interest more. I've been reading it with interest and would love to see more PhotoReaders talking about the book they discussed. Often there are challenges with the books that they might need to modify their approach.

Oh the system works. I was thunderstruck to discover I could have been using PhotoReading when I've been slow reading during my school years. I had it working in 2 hours, That's how long it took me to read the PhotoReading book. Using the instructions on the front page. Following the little Einsteins.

I figured the system would show me how to find the little Einsteins in other books.

One thing I've learned when people tell me they tried and failed they focused too much on the PhotoReading step thinking that they are going to have conscious comprehension as they flip those pages. Not so.

Even when looking through a book for one specific answer for my purpose. I flipped those pages without conscious comprehension until my brain caught up and told me to go back. The passage I needed to read was some pages ago. I remember flipping a huge dictionary for an answer to a quiz and was flipping a little slower because the pages were so big and the book so heavy, my brain was at least fast enough to tell me to leave my finger between the pages. I did. I was up to S in the dictionary before I learned the answer. Lovely argument going off inside my head. "No it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't, go back to where you got your finger... " So part of me was smug, yes it was. The part of me that was no it isn't didn't like being wrong. Weird huh?

If it isn't working lets check your purpose. Select a book that interest you and tell me your purpose for that book. Don't skip that step it's going to help me work out where you're getting stuck with the system.

So name of the book and purpose. PM me if you prefer not to do it on the forum.

Alex
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/27/13 11:39 AM
I would like you to to make it in the forum guys, as I face problems with photoreading too.. I am still working on it but the only times it worked where 2 times one was simultaneous and the other was while activating, I found out I did the tangerine technique in a wrong way, and other things, the thing that keeps me going on is that I have an inner feeling that it will work, and that I realised my memory has improved alot ! I even remember things I did 10 years ago!!
Posted By: KurianJojo Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/27/13 12:19 PM
I prefer PMing you.I'm not completely given up on PRing,something inside my mind not letting me give up.I like to try again under your guidance Alex.Thank you
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/27/13 09:10 PM
haha ok then I think I will pm you too Mr.Alex
Posted By: GreaterSelf Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/28/13 02:44 AM
Originally Posted By: BnOmar
haha ok then I think I will pm you too Mr.Alex


Mrs/Ms Alex!
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/30/13 07:25 AM
...bare "Alex" is going to be an all purpose one I think smile
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/30/13 07:27 AM
forgive me anyway, admins in my country are always men smile
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/30/13 08:08 AM
No problem about the Mr Miss Ms Mrs business. I just go by Alex. It doesn't really matter as to gender as long as the information is useful, right? smile

BnOmar,

One of the main reasons people have trouble is they don't really know their purpose. We grew up hiding our real purpose from ourselves and others because we fear we would look like we're silly. I can think of occasions in my own childhood I had a terrific reason for doing something (that's a purpose) and I wound up in trouble for it. And to save myself the grief of explaining my purpose and being told "you didn't think of the consequences?" It's easier to take the scolding question, "Why did you do that?" with "I don't know."

And I have no doubt, that's the first answer that echoes in ones head when I ask them, what's your purpose (reason) for reading this book.

Another hang-up from hiding our purpose is we no longer define it clearly for fear if we try to explain it to someone and learn there are consequences.

Alex
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/31/13 04:56 AM
let me give you an example, when I study my mathematics book, I have an imagination of myself after reading, I see myself the master in mathematics, and that when I solve questions, I answers and Ideas flicker to my mind, but the truth is that when solve, I get stuck in many things, most of them i solved few hours later, but some are still unsolved yet, Moreover, when reading an english story with a purpose of getting the writer's sense and way of writing to enhance my writing, I find myself confused when I start activating, I ask my self :"did I actually get what I need?" , I am still on it, though I only got a flicker 2 times in my life, but my memory has improved and I started to understand the meaning of words by a kind of intution, Specially after trying reading books by the palm of my hand..
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/31/13 10:58 AM
First, your imagination is nice for an ego trip yet how is it practical? Where does one really apply the information from the maths book in life? How does one really use that skill. Therein lies a real purpose.

Getting a writers sense???? What does that mean? As a writer myself I usually write to impart information. If you just want to get a sense, which is similar to a concept of what the writer has to offer, look at the table of content and you're done.

A real purpose looks at how one can apply what they read considering we read to learn. And given how much information is published each year it makes sense to use ones time wisely. Taking too much time to get a concept or sense of what the author has to offer is a waste, consider it your first purpose when you look at a book. You're done with the preview. Once you have the sense / concept. Take it further. Is it worth spending more time with this author or is it better to find a book or author that matches what you need for your life?

Alex
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/31/13 02:32 PM
another example to clarify the "sense", when writing an article in the english exam some students get A others get C , though as student, I feel the writing which got C if for more understood and interesting than that one which got an A. I need to understand how the examiners think, because even some teachers fail to unerstand them. and I think the PRing is the solution, let us work on this one, considering I have samples of other students writings with the examiners' comments on them in my exercise book. I am little confused about it , some subjects I take i only study with little care about using them in real life, biology for example, and the real purpose for learning is only to pass the end-year exam ....though i enjoy studying it sometimes.
Posted By: BnOmar Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 12/31/13 07:37 PM
I haven't PR that exercise book yet, so what about making it our sample ,I am confused about how my purpose should look like for the book.
Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus Re: Difficulty with PhotoReading - 01/02/14 08:36 AM
I don't think anyone will know exactly how examiners think unless you ask them personally, will this be in the exam. Why do you grade that an A and that a C.

I think students work too hard at trying to please and lose the focus of why they signed up for the course. And for the most part you only need a passing grade. For that PhotoReading is a time saving approach because it asks you to stay focused on your purpose.

Why are you doing the course?--
What do you need to know for that purpose?
Also you will need to demonstrate that knowledge for the instructor - what do you need to know for that?

So when you approach your text book and reading material, those the answers from those 3 questions are part of the map to your purpose for the course texts.


For example... Why am I doing this course... to have a career in...
What do I need to know for that... you might wind up with a list that includes... to find out what I need to know... Learn and improve my English.
To demonstrate that knowledge for the instructor - what do you need to know for that? I need to know what the instructor wants me to know so that I get a passing grade. This will include some material I'm not sure is relevant to my career goal but it is relevant to the course.

So you're assigned a novel... read it for literacy, First time PhotoReading it, then do multiple activation layers and then do the rapid read. (reverse to how one traditionally reads literature for coursework yes you are expected to read the book 3 times. First time your normal reading approach to a novel, then you search the book by reading it again faster, and 3rd time you skim it. Takes much longer than PhotoReading system)

So during activation you look for the characters, the settings and era of the book. With more layers you go deeper for things like moral of the story etc.

Ultimately your purpose will be defined by what you want to get out of the book.

Alex
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