Posted By: Boylanpower My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 11:49 AM
i have just photoread my first 3 or 4 books-and am having problems with the activation process.
it seems to me that super reading and dipping are only just like skimming the book. I thought we where supposed to be able to download the entire book(s) from our sub-consience, but i dont see how the photoreading has made the superreading and dipping any easier. Sure i am reading faster brcause i am skipping the 89% of the text that has no meaning but isn't that the stuff which makes the book interesting? cutting the corners on the details and backgrounds makes books boring and reading texts dangerous. I guess if i practice enough i should be able to automatically download the 89% but at this stagee its kinda fustrating. I am very determined not to let the small things get me down however and am still doing my best. Sorry to bug you guys (im sure these are normal questions) and ps. This is a great, super polite forum.
well id love to hear any advice.
thanks all- u guys are great
walk with peace
James






Posted By: FraserB Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 11:59 AM
James,

Keep at it. Although the 89% may be the bit that you find boring, it may well be that it is indeed boring and not relevant to your particular needs - you need to have a purpose for activating the material you have just photoread - if you do not have a particular purpose then sure it will seem boring.

Have you had a look at some of the archive material ? I seem to remember some pointers - I'll see if I can give you some ideas but 'till then just keep trying .

Fraser





Posted By: Boylanpower Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 12:10 PM
sorry i meant that you are missing the 89% of the text that is interesting and that provides the fun from the book. The 11% that is relevant may give you the idea of the book but i feel like there are holes even after multiple passes. sorry thats what i meant





Posted By: Dana Hanson Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 04:17 PM
Before SuperReading & Dipping, are you crafting some Mind Probing questions with the trigger words and phrases you wrote down when
you Previewed for 8 minutes?







Posted By: Mr.Winkle Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 04:49 PM
yes,I'm having the same problem. It may be just that I haven't finished tape 8 but I've photoread probably 6 books and am having trouble activating. Last I photoread was Gravity by Tess Gerritsen and have a keen remembrance of the trigger words. The book is almost 400 pages but I think it would take awhile to super read and dip the whole thing. What other techniques can u use to activate books of this size and broader spectrum of understanding than from super reading and dipping?





Posted By: Will2002 Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/05/02 05:48 PM
Try not to think of PR as if you should already know everything in the material. I think that was one of my major problems. Approach the book as if you know nothing about it, like a beginner. Be curious about what you want to find out. Pay attention to any small thing you've learned. Go over the the book several times in 15-30 min sessions. Depending on how large or technical 2.5-3 hrs. should do. After that do a mind map. I personally don't like super-reading and dipping so I use rythmic perusal and skittering. Try all the different styles and see which allows you the most comprehension. Going through the material over and over is what makes it stick. It may seem slow at first, but after you get in a rythm it's far faster than any type of reading. That's just my 2 cents .

-Will





Posted By: hshearer Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/12/02 12:02 AM
Similar experience. I have been through the tapes once, (actually 3 of the tapes, several times) but have not noticed anything yet. Even the dictionary exercise on the back of tape 1 didn't work. I tried that four times but still couldn't "see" where any of the words were. I am considering returning the set, since that is a lot to pay if I can't get it to work.





Posted By: razordu30 Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/12/02 12:26 AM
Don't stop just because the dictionary game doesn't work...lots of people are unsuccessful with the dictionary game yet continue to photoread just fine.

Boylan, depending on your application, the 89% of the text is either useless (with books the way they are today, this is largely true) or if it is important, you can always skitter or use rapid reading.

I end up having to use rapid reading for my Literature stuff, since the plot isn't as important as the text as a whole (writing style, syntax, diction). But I'll still finish the book a lot faster than I would have if I'd read it normally, plus the extra passes at the end of superread & dipping just to find other points helps a lot.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com





Posted By: chipper Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/24/02 05:20 PM
I've had the tapes for about a month now and have been practicing almost every night. I haven't noticed any improvement in my comprehension of books, however, I feel I am reading faster. The activation stage feels like skimming and it's only when I fall back into my 'old' reading habits that I feel I'm getting anything out of the book. Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong?





Posted By: Kaiden Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/24/02 09:50 PM
Dreaming helps, or at least Paul Scheele says it helps. After RapidReading the PhotoReading book, I asked my mind to craft a dream for me. I dreampt that I was teaching the PhotoReading Whole Mind System to a bunch of Marines.

The Marines represented the books that I have not yet read, but really would like to if I could only spare the time. The blackboard was a beautiful mindmap of the system that I did myself. I don't remember what it looked like, but that's OK. I don't think the point of mindmaps is to remember the maps, so much as remember the material being mapped.

After all, the map is not the territory.





I suggest SR+dipping a few times with each time you PR. This may sound painful, but over time you will find the need to do multiple SR+dipping less and less.

The whole PR system is like a muscle. It takes time to build that muscle up. The muscle, nevertheless, is there. Also make sure you are getting enough sleep each night.





Posted By: chipper Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/25/02 05:00 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kaiden:
[B]Dreaming helps, or at least Paul Scheele says it helps.

I don't usually dream. I've been listening to the Memory charger tape, but only have dreamt once in the last month.





Posted By: Boylanpower Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/25/02 05:42 AM
i never used to dream either but now every night i have vivid realistic dreams filled with exciting, creative and metaphorical images. I atribute this mainly to my use of dream play. an excelletn pariliminal





Posted By: theerapun Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/25/02 12:25 PM
Hi,

I'm dreaming vividly everynight. I atribute that to Memory Supercharger. I also have Dream Play but it doesn't seem to help me so I've stopped it for a while.. I'll start listening to it daily again.

Actually , it took me a while for Mem Supercharger to work. Keep listening to it everynight and one day it'll work.





Posted By: Kaiden Re: My Problem with photoreading so far - 02/27/02 06:31 AM
I am exceedingly lazy. I find the suggestion to mind-map dreams, rather than write them down as a narrative, helps the just-woke-up part.

Also, be sure to get enough sleep. The dreams usually come more vividly in "surplus sleep," usually the last two hours of sleep. There is a myth that a person needs 8 hours of sleep per night. The fact is, a person needs at least 8 hours of sleep a night to function normally (although this can vary from person to person). Most people do best on 9-10 hours a night, but most people don't get that.

Now, taking a few extra hours of sleep each night may seem like a lot of extra work for PhotoReading, but it can help in other areas of your life, too.

In fact, I think I'm going to take my own advice right now. Goodnight!

P.S. I also find I get a lot of comprehension from previewing. I will usually read the whole preface or introduction of the book, to get a decent overview (it's usually less than 10 pages), and the last page, where the author states his agenda for the information he presented. I've noticed with some books it's about all the information I need.

There's also info in the RapidReading thread on how to cut down on subvocalization, which is impossible when SuperReading. If you can increase the rate-of-understanding beyond the rate-of-subvocalizing, then there *should* be an increase in the effectiveness of SuperReading and a decrease in the amount of dipping nessesary for good-enough comprehension.

[This message has been edited by Kaiden (edited March 02, 2002).]





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